VRD TVSuite after Beta

#1
What are the intentions for VRD TVSuite after beta? Will current VRD+ users be able to update to this version at no charge, or will there be an upgrade fee?

The reason I ask is that, apart from the fact that VRD+ is likely to be discontinued and no further updates made, there is little significant difference to the program at the moment.

Apart from (the very nice indeed) cosmetic changes, and the odd bug fix etc, I currently see no benefit in my paying for an upgrade. However, this is a great and useful program, and I would be willing to pay an upgrade if there were extra features and the ability to do more with the program.

So to re-ask my original question, before I digressed a bit, what are the intentions for VRD TVSuite after beta?

Thanks

DamoUK
 

Danr

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#2
TVSuite will, at a miminum, include our DVD authoring solution. This is currently being tested by a small group of Alpha users, and when its ready we will open up the beta of it to the community. Many other features are planned for TVSuite in the upcoming months.

VideoReDo Plus will continue to be sold and supported although the bulk of new feature development will be geared towards TVSuite. VideoReDo Plus users will be able to upgrade to TVSuite for a small fee, equivalent or less than the price difference between TVS and VRD+. Final prices have not been set yet.
 
#3
Thanks for the reply, that answers my question. The addition of DVD authoring alone will make it worth the investment (assuming the upgrade is sensibly priced). I would be interested to know what other features you have planned too (unless this is a closely guarded secret to keep everyones anticipation going)
 
#4
TVSuite will, at a miminum, include our DVD authoring solution. This is currently being tested by a small group of Alpha users, and when its ready we will open up the beta of it to the community. Many other features are planned for TVSuite in the upcoming months.
Hopefully it will include the enhancement for showing sections of audio that are DD2.0 and the sections that are DD5.1. I was shown what it could look like months ago, but have seen nothing since.

Also adding support for LPCM audio, a new feature.

As well as the issues that have stacked up: 4:2:2 display fix, buffer overflow from particular files.

I certainly have no objection to an upgrade fee. The program is not expensive to begin with.
 
#6
I would prefer to see an audio editing feature happening before an upgrade fee in place for the coming new version.
Audio editing would indeed be nice. The current audio display method would have to go before effective audio editing could occur.
 
#8
What is TV Suite ? I search the forum but I can't find any description of exactly what is TV Suite.

I'm in a dilema: Should I purchase VRD Plus now or wait for DVD Authoring or TV Suite?
 

Danr

Administrator
Staff member
#9
TVSuite is the next version of VideoReDo. It will include, DVD authoring, Titling, and other feature enhancements.

TV Suite will cost slightly more than VRD Plus, but current users will be able to upgrade for no more than the delta. We will continue to support VRD Plus even after TV Suite is released.
 
#11
DVDs are hopelessly outdated with PQ that is almost unbearable.

VRD had evolved to an awesome HD editor for quick editing of HD recordings.

The move to DVD authoring is a move in the wrong direction. It will temporarily give you more users, but once a full-featured h.264 editor hits the market, that's where people are going.
 
#12
DVDs are hopelessly outdated with PQ that is almost unbearable.

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The move to DVD authoring is a move in the wrong direction. It will temporarily give you more users, but once a full-featured h.264 editor hits the market, that's where people are going.
That's a bit of a sweeping statement, DVD may not be the best quality, but it sure beats VHS tapes. There is very little HD broadcast yet, and as most of the world don't yet have Blu-ray or HD-DVD players/recorders due to the cost, I think that DVD will suffice for now.

I, personally, am waiting until the format war has been decided before going for any HD option.

Once HD options become more commonplace and cost a LOT less, I'm sure VRD will be upgraded to accomodate.

VRD had evolved to an awesome HD editor for quick editing of HD recordings.
As far as we've been told to date, you won't be losing HD editing capabilities, you will be GAINING the ability to burn onto a DVD.
 
#13
Get your point. It would be cheaper for me to purchase VRD+ now and then upgrade later, if I choose that option.

TVSuite is the next version of VideoReDo. It will include, DVD authoring, Titling, and other feature enhancements.

TV Suite will cost slightly more than VRD Plus, but current users will be able to upgrade for no more than the delta. We will continue to support VRD Plus even after TV Suite is released.
 
#17
Coming to this thread a bit late, I have to concur that DVD authoring is no big deal, and there are many other programs out there for that. Unless you are including Blu-Ray authoring, simply getting video onto a disc is not a major feature I care about.

What I would like to see most is the ability to mux native streams, including .ac3 and .dts audio along with an .mpv into a .ts container. H.264 support would be very nice as well.

Hope you focus your energies on HD and audio editing.

Let's keep it moving forward.
 
#18
Coming to this thread a bit late, I have to concur that DVD authoring is no big deal, and there are many other programs out there for that. Unless you are including Blu-Ray authoring, simply getting video onto a disc is not a major feature I care about.
Agree. I have a professional DVD authoring program. There is no way that VRD is ever going to beat it and keep the cost of VRD below $500 :D

What I would like to see most is the ability to mux native streams, including .ac3 and .dts audio along with an .mpv into a .ts container. H.264 support would be very nice as well.

Hope you focus your energies on HD and audio editing.

Let's keep it moving forward.
Bingo. Exactly what is needed. There has been many a time that I would have liked to have used VRD to remux material.
 
#19
There is very little HD broadcast yet, and as most of the world don't yet have Blu-ray or HD-DVD players/recorders due to the cost, I think that DVD will suffice for now.
There is tons of HD material and lots more coming. Every primetime scripted drama on network TV is in HD. That isn't counting HBO, Showtime, etc.

I, personally, am waiting until the format war has been decided before going for any HD option.
While I too am waiting for the format war to end and a winner declared, it has not stopped me from obtaining HD programming and storing it on DVDs (programs bigger than 4.7GB are split and placed onto multiple DVDs).

Once HD options become more common place and cost a LOT less, I'm sure VRD will be upgraded to accomodate.
Obtaining HD programming is extremely cheap. The cost is when saving onto HD media.

As far as we've been told to date, you won't be losing HD editing capabilities, you will be GAINING the ability to burn onto a DVD.
And losing HD resolution and quality at the same time. Sorry, I prefer to keep HD as HD.
 
#20
And losing HD resolution and quality at the same time.
Sorry, I prefer to keep HD as HD.
If you mean VideoReDo will reduce quality by authoring, that's not the case.

The VRD factory guys have said that "making DVDs" is their #1 requested feature.
Obviously, that's from the masses for whom DVD quality is the motherlode.
Folks used to hooking up their VHS tape player (and now their DVD player) with an RF modulator on channel three. :rolleyes:
Not from people who are dealing with high-end authoring tools, nor hi-def video to process.

I normally make multi-title DVDs with DVD Labs Pro.
But, for single-title discs (which I've only recently gotten back to making), staying with VRD and having it author is really nice.
It's going to be a real hit with the "masses" .

For hi def DVDs, I think I'll continue editing with VRD, then convert to DivX in 720 or 1080, and burn to DVD media.
We'll see how the playback quality is through todays latest DVD players which handle Ultra DivX 6.
I don't see VRD going that way, as it's too far off the main path.
 
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