Videoredo and DVD lab pro

phd

Super Moderator
No, it won't be the complete file, but if a shorter segment can reproduce the problem, it is easier (and quicker) to upload.

If you trim from the beginning, the file would still load into DVDLab Pro and VideoReDo. This way you can see if a shorter segment of the file will reproduce the problem.
 

Raziaar

New member
Okay... I tried doing this, the first 250 mb of the file were fine, compiled fine both unedited and edited with videoredo.

I then started from the 250 mb mark, and cut another 250 mb from the main file. However, this file, either unedited, or edited with videoredo, gives me an error in videoredo. When edited, it gives one error, wont even demux at all... and without being edited, it gives me the error when starting on the audio track of demuxing:

C:\documents and settings\raziaar\desktop\thepracticecut.mpv
--> Cause: Not a 11172-2 or 13818-2 Video stream
--> If this is a capture from TV it may have missing/wrong header
--> Please go to tools and try fix stream headers on the file.

C:\documents and settings\raziaar\desktop\thepracticecut.mpa
--> Cause: Bad header or unknown error
--> This file doesn't seems to be MPEG audio
--> Check if it is not a wrongly named ac3...



Okay, so with this, what can I do? Now, take note, that the WHOLE big file, all unedited I can demux and compile perfectly fine, to burn onto a dvd, but when I edit that main file with videoredo, it has problems. Now doing what you say and cut the section to send to you to figure out the error, its giving me problems when its unedited that it didnt give me in the whole version of the unedited file. Make any sense? Can ya help me out?

You know, this isnt all that big of a deal anymore, since I just said screw it, and burned the whole unedited portion(with commercials still intact), and every one since then so far has seemed fine. So I dunno.
 

Raziaar

New member
DanR said:
How about uploading the 250 MB bad segment anyway. It would be interesting to see what VideoReDo is complaining about. Are you using VideoReDo or VideoReDo Plus?

Our FTP site is: ftp://upload:upload@videoredo.net
Oh no! In my sleep deprived state, I kind of mutilated my post(it was very early in the morning, and i've been trying to get some more space on my PVR before the weeks shows start).

I mean, the errors are happening in dvdlab studio and pro.

And I have been using video redo plus.

Does the fact that the errors are happening in DVDlab and not videoredo matter here? Or should I post on the dvdlab forums, even though I am not a subscriber? Its merely on a free trial right now.
 

Danr

Administrator
Staff member
Post the file anyway. Let us try to replicate the problem. Then we can tell you if its a DVD lab issue or something VideoReDo did.
 

Raziaar

New member
DanR said:
Post the file anyway. Let us try to replicate the problem. Then we can tell you if its a DVD lab issue or something VideoReDo did.
I've uploaded it. I thought I put it in there with the folder named Raziaar, and the file named Thepracticeunedited

Though, I don't see it.
 

Danr

Administrator
Staff member
Found it, its in the root folder and am downloading it now.

Are you using VideoReo or VideoReDo Plus?
 

Danr

Administrator
Staff member
Build, 393 shouldn't be a problem, but VRDP has been released now so I suggest you upgrade anyway. Click on Help>Check for Updated Version to download.
 

Danr

Administrator
Staff member
I DL'd and installed DVDLab Pro (previously only had DVDLab on my machine). If I demux your file in VideoReDo (build 401) and import into DVDLab, I have no problem creating a DVD. However, If I use DVDLab Pro to demux then I get the same errors you did.

I don't know why DVDLab is complaining, and since VRDP seems to fix it nicely why go any further right now :) Actually I did look at the original file internals and don't see anything seriously wrong other than the really long GOPs, but that isn't an issue if VideoReDo does the demuxing. My guess is that DVDLab has some issues with its demuxer, and I suggest you stick with VideoReDo for demuxing. It not only seems to be more accurate, but its faster as well.
 

Anole

Moderator
A buddy uses the same DVD Labs I do, and always lets it demux for him.
I thought it was -slow-, but moreover, it makes a mess of things.
(leaves unexpected files around)
I know VRD saves 'em about as quickly in mpa/mpv as it does in .mpg.

So, as part of my work flow, I just do my final save from VideoReDo in mpa/mpv format and hand that to DVD Labs.
If there weren't many edits, I'm ready to author at that point.
If there were a lot of edits, and/or I might want to review/redo the editing later, I also have VRD save in .mpg
(actually, I try to always do both)

Works for me. ;)
 

Markham

New member
DanR said:
However, If I use DVDLab Pro to demux then I get the same errors you did.
Dan,

There are two demuxers in DVD Lab PRO. As well as DLP's "standard" demuxer, a second is part of the Professional Extensions. The second demuxer is not only much faster but it does handle over-long GOPs correctly - although a warning is generated when the elementary stream is loaded into Professional Extensions.

GOP lengths should not exceed 18 frames for NTSC or 15 for PAL and the GOPs themselves should be closed.


Mark.
 

megageek2000

New member
Just joined the forum after reading this thread which is exactly the problem I am having. I am using VRD+ 2.1.1.413. and DVD Lab Pro 1.53. I was demuxing using the standard demuxer in DLP and the compiler was aborting. Then after reading this forum, I tried to demux using VRD+, same problem. Also tried using Pro Ext in DLP to demux, same problem.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. Also some of my SATV programs processed through VRD+ work fine and I can make DVDs in DLP, but some of them have problems. I have searched a lot for a solution and still havent found one.
 

Anole

Moderator
glad old thread helped

I process satellite TV through both (VRD 450 and DLP 1.5).
You might want to get a much later version of VideoReDo.
They continue to hone a finer edge on it monthly.
There's a 60% chance that'll fix you up.
If not, let's talk more about your source material. ;)
 

megageek2000

New member
Thanks for your post.

The source is the same every single time, Dish Satellite .ts file copied via PVR Explorer 2.0.2.x. I then process it through VRD+ to cut out the ads and the resulting MPEG is compiled to DVD with DLP. It works most of the time, but I there are problems at times. For ex, from this year Australian Open, I was able to make a DVD of the final, but not the R16 match.
 

Anole

Moderator
Dish PVR extraction to DVD

megageek2000 said:
...It works most of the time, but I there are problems at times. ...
I think I've been using PVRexplorer 2016 with my DP508 receiver.
Did about four hours of the Formula One race last weekend.
VRD bitched about some video/audio problems, but the DVD turned out well.
I think the video breakup was the source feed from Malaysia.

I don't know about .ts files.
I have PVRexplorer render finished .mpg files, ready for import into VRD.

Hard to know if you have bad source material or what.
The VRD guys would say to run the source mpg through the QuickStreamFix (QSF) feature first, but here's what I'd focus on:

1) have PVRexplorer mux the show to .mpg output file.
2) get latest VideoReDo from their site (450 or higher)
3) when finished, have VRD write .mpa and .mpv files to feed DVD Labs
4) check the log of your PVR to see if you've had any signal dropouts.
5) go outside and see if there is anything that could interfere with your line of sight to the bird.
(blowing tree limb, or such)

For the most part, I've found the new PVRexplorer (even my 2016 ) to be so much better than the old PVRexplorer 1068!
There seems to be nothing for VRD to fix up. ;)
The extractor guy is really on top of this, making solid mpg files!

edit: you originally said:
...and the compiler was aborting.
Well, any time you pass your source material through VRD, it should get QSF'd by default...
I was about to suggest the standard remedy: make a first pass through VRDs QSF utility, save the output, and then suck that back into VRD for your edit...
No, follow the steps above. I think you need the latest VRD.
Try that and let us know.
 

megageek2000

New member
Thanks again.

I do the same for step 1, I use PVRExplorer to output .mpg file from my DVR 625 Receiver which stores the files as .ts.

The only thing in my VRD needs upgrade, let me try that - the latest VRD+ ver is 2.2.1.445 - is this the one.

There were no drop outs in the PVR log, everything extracted fine.

Thought I should mention this, I run TMPG AC3 inside DLP to conver my mp2 audio to ac3.

Also, as a side note, I tried to use DLP GOP rewrite, but it was of no use. Glad to note that you are also an F1 fan. Infact, the problem I am having is also with the race file from the F1 GP of Bahrain at Sakhir. Quali and Inside GP are fine, but when DLP muxes the Race, it aborts.
 
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Anole

Moderator
Gentlemen - start your engines !

megageek2000 said:
The only thing in my VRD needs upgrade, let me try that - the latest VRD+ ver is 2.2.1.445 - is this the one.
I'm quite comfortable running the beta versions, and 459 is the current English ver available.
See the release notes, for some good reading.

Thought I should mention this, I run TMPG AC3 inside DLP to conver my mp2 audio to ac3.
No experience with this. Happy with standard audio out of the PVR.
Oh, you probably do it to shrink the audio file size... interesting.
Hadn't been a problem for me.
But, you might try leaving out this step... just to see.

Glad to note that you are also an F1 fan.
Infact, the problem I am having is also with the race file from the F1 GP of Bahrain at Sakhir.
Quali and Inside GP are fine, but when DLP muxes the Race, it aborts.
We need to get this fixed, if it takes you sending me the raw!
I missed that race, so I have a vested interest! ;)

I have made the 2nd race at Malaysia into a single disc.
(one Friday test, Inside GP, Qualifying, and the Race. 4.3gb and it just fit! )
Wonder if you've processed it , yet?
Had a lot of noise out of VRD - it bitched a lot, but DVDL digested it fine, and the DVD was wonderful.
 
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megageek2000

New member
OK, I downloaded ver 2.2.1.445, ran QSF and demuxed to mpv and mpa and pulled it into DLP, still same problem, process aborts midway through mux in DLP.

No problem sending you the Bahrain race file which is causing problems - let me know how I can, file size is about 2.19 GB.

Have not processed Sepang yet. I dont do Friday practise as it is a bit boring, but since I have disk space, I think I will put it in too. Inside GP for Sepang was cut at the begining, so only have part of it.

Also tried without TMPG AC3, same problem.
 
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