vap and windows 8 - must reconfigure folders each time and rename any files recorded

Bill Aggie

New member
I'm really scratching my head on this one. First I want to say that VAP is the best thing that ever happened to de-commercializing and I've used it thousands of times (automatically) and it's such a good set up... but I can't get this worked out since upgrading to windows 8 and I'm not sure anymore what to try.

THe first things is that VAP requires me to reset the folders each time after a fresh start of windows or vap after exiting for whatever reason. It loses the folders every time when I restart. I've reinstalled everything... vrd and vap and still I can't avoid the lost of folders settings after exit. Oddly if I force an exit then come right back, it works, but any delay or a reboot, vap asks me to set the folders.

Second, even when vap is not running, if anything is recorded by windows media center (even if brand new to vap), the monitored files show as "new" but they are not blackened bold in the monitored files listing and they just sit there without being processed when VAP is started. I have to manually rename each file then the pick up as "transferring", they are blackened bold as new files, and then they process.

I'm at a loss. I can still get VAP to work but it's a manual process of resetting the folders each time then renaming the recorded tv folder files in some way to make VAP think they are new.

Does anyone have any suggestions as to what I can try. I just can't "live without VAP", sorry, it's that good of a thing. Any suggestions?
 

dlflannery

Moderator
Unfortunately I'm still using Win7 and don't have any immediate plans to upgrade. This behavior suggests some problem with VAP being able to access the configuration files it keeps in its data folder. At least on windows versions prior to Win8, the location of this folder can be determined by opening a command window and entering:

echo %appdata%\vap

I'm curious: what do you get when you do that? Could there be user-access or permissions that need to be set for that folder?

After you start VAP and enter your folders, shut VAP down and look at the VideoFileManager.xml file in that data folder. Please zip and attach a copy to a post.

Also, this has never been necessary on Win7 but try launching VAP as administrator. On Win7 this is done by right-clicking the VAP shortcut and selecting "Run as administrator". (It doesn't just mean run from an admin login.)

Is anyone else running VAP on Win8?
 
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Bill Aggie

New member
Unfortunately I'm still using Win7 and don't have any immediate plans to upgrade. This behavior suggests some problem with VAP being able to access the configuration files it keeps in its data folder. At least on windows versions prior to Win8, the location of this folder can be determined by opening a command window and entering:

echo %appdata%\vap

I'm curious: what do you get when you do that? Could there be user-access or permissions that need to be set for that folder?

After you start VAP and enter your folders, shut VAP down and look at the VideoFileManager.xml file in that data folder. Please zip and attach a copy to a post.

Also, this has never been necessary on Win7 but try launching VAP as administrator. On Win7 this is done by right-clicking the VAP shortcut and selecting "Run as administrator". (It doesn't just mean run from an admin login.)

Is anyone else running VAP on Win8?

In searching the forums I did see some users with windows 8 but didn't see this problem. You know, right now Microsoft is offering a direct purchase of windows 8 for $39.00 and a free download of wmc (not part of win 8). So this is the time to get it if you want it. I didn't but my win 7 became corrupt and I went to 8 just to try and save some of my settings and programs, etc. (win 8 has an awful new interface per my preference but is pretty cool otherwise). I'm using a shell to give the windows 7 start menu so I'm happy with it.

I will try playing with the rights/access thing and report back. I hope you are right and that fixes it. Oddly windows 8 default boots under your microsoft account and it does not give all rights to it. YOu have to go in the back door to get administrator accounts so you might very well have hit the nail on the head. You know, I've told you this before and I'll say it again. Your program with VRD is my most valued treasure. Television is useless for me without it. I am still so thankful you did this application!

I'll follow up after I explore some more.

Thank you!

Bill
(mine was at C:\Users\bill8\AppData\Roaming\vap )(
 
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Bill Aggie

New member
I'll follow up after I explore some more. Thank you! Bill (mine was at C:\Users\bill8\AppData\Roaming\vap )([/QUOTE said:
You were right, it was the rigid user control of windows 8 that kept screwing me up. If you run into this ever, I tried playing with rights and acccess but it didn't solve it. However, The default user account in windows 8 which is presented to you as a login is for a MSN linked account and it does not and can not have full administrator rights. The work around is to create a real administrator account and use that as your default login. then VAP works perfect again. As a side note, I changed to the user account and windows 8 now performs much better.

Once again, thank you for getting me back on track with VAP!

Bill
 

Bill Aggie

New member
Good info. Thanks!

Well I spoke to soon. Yes, that fixed the problem I originally had but something else went south on me and this is not a VRD issue, it's something else I dealt with once before. All my decommercialized files play on all players and streamers but at about 2-3x speed. I had this happen with windows 7 too so it's not a windows 8 issue. I never figured it out until I just wiped windows and started over. Gawd I hate the idea of that! No effort dlflannery on your part ... It's not a VAP issue. Maybe someone here knows what causes that and will shed some light.

(dlflannery, did you know windows has a "GOD" mode that lets you get to almost all settings on 1 screen? Lemme know if you want to know how to access it)
 
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dlflannery

Moderator
If you have a problem that can be demonstrated independent of VAP, you should post it in the appropriate VRD forum to get maximum attention from VRD staff and other users.

I hadn't heard of the GOD mode but a google search yielded lots of info. Interesting, thanks.
 
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