Sign here for transitions/ fades

rayn

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OK- this is an attempt at people power. I'd like everybody who would to see fades and transitions introduced into VRD to simply sign here. Sporadic posts on this topic, however heartfelt, don't seem to build up any kind of momentum....usually tailing out with a wishy-washy, some-time-in-the-future half-promise being discussed and debated to no satisfactory outcome.
We all love VRD- but this feature request has become more than a niggle.....four or five years have passed since this was originally promised and I think it's time that this was returned to the top of the to-do list.

If you'd like fades/ transitions to be a priority in VRD please sign below.

Thanks to all.
 

Arctos

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OK- this is an attempt at people power. I'd like everybody who would to see fades and transitions introduced into VRD to simply sign here. Sporadic posts on this topic, however heartfelt, don't seem to build up any kind of momentum....usually tailing out with a wishy-washy, some-time-in-the-future half-promise being discussed and debated to no satisfactory outcome.

We all love VRD- but this feature request has become more than a niggle.....four or five years have passed since this was originally promised and I think it's time that this was returned to the top of the to-do list.

If you'd like fades/ transitions to be a priority in VRD please sign below.

Thanks to all.
I may be floggin a dead horse here, but I'm in again... :D
 

lesvance

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No fades or transitions for me, please

I use VRDSuite for editing cable tv recordings captured via BTV. I just want to cut the "objectionable" content so I can burn to DVD and watch on my home theatre.
If I'm doing anything fancier (home video, etc.). I use Pinnacle Studio. And then, I only do cuts and fades. Occasionally create a title.
VRDSuite hides a lot of complexity from users like me. I want to keep it that way.
 

murrayt

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I'm a long term user of VRD+ and VRD TVSuite

While having the ability to do fades and transitions would be a nice touch, it's not something I overly value in comparison with other functionality, and improvements.

As others have commented above I mostly use VRDTVS to top and tail TV recordings and knock out ads, for which typically there is already a fade provided. Insert some black if need be and all is well.

So fades transition are not something I want to fight for.
 

Jackson

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I use VRDSuite for editing cable tv recordings captured via BTV. I just want to cut the "objectionable" content so I can burn to DVD and watch on my home theatre.
If I'm doing anything fancier (home video, etc.). I use Pinnacle Studio. And then, I only do cuts and fades. Occasionally create a title.
VRDSuite hides a lot of complexity from users like me. I want to keep it that way.
Question to lesvance.
Ok, I too use Pinnacle Studio & although it is an excellent editor for avi (DV) files, but when it comes to editing mpeg files it re-encodes the whole lot whereas VRD only re-encodes at the joins. That is what makes VRD so good.
Or have I got it wrong about Pinnacle Studio ?

To Rayn: There is another thread started by me asking for support.
http://www.videoredo.net/msgBoard/showthread.php?t=6181
I'll put a note up redirecting posters to this thread started by you

All I require is a simple scene dissolve blend of adjustable length to cover any abrupt hard cut.

Sad to say there does not seem much support out there for a transition feature
 

neumannu47

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There is support for fades, but obviously the incorporation of the feature into VRD/TVS is not simple. The company has been very responsive to safe, easy-to-include features that have been requested. My guess is that they are stumped over how to implement it reliably, and there are other features that are more important and that would suffer if they spent the time on fades. Complaining about the lack of fades is wasting electrons.
 

laserfan

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My guess is that they are stumped over how to implement it reliably, and there are other features that are more important and that would suffer if they spent the time on fades.
I doubt the are "stumped"; I think now with TVSuite they have a full-featured encoder built-in that they could use for this, but there is (at least) the matter of UI implementation that's gonna be key...

I was interested in this too, way-back-when I first bought VRD, but I have to admit I've had few-if-any requirements for these (transitions/fades) in the editing I do.
 

bits

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There was a time long ago when I lobbied for simple fade to black or black frames but alas over time I have learned to live without them. When I went away from burning DVDs to streaming video directly to my TVs I really did not need the feature. If I did, I have other software that I will do the trick.

Heck, I would have been just as pleased with VRD had they never messed with DVD burning! It is great for cutting and trimming mpegs and that is what I use it for!
 

msmart

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Question to lesvance.
Ok, I too use Pinnacle Studio & although it is an excellent editor for avi (DV) files, but when it comes to editing mpeg files it re-encodes the whole lot whereas VRD only re-encodes at the joins. That is what makes VRD so good.
Or have I got it wrong about Pinnacle Studio ?
While I'm not lesvance, I can tell you that most NLE editors want to encode DVD compliant frame sizes (720x480). I used to use Pinnacle Studio and have since change to Sony Vegas Movie Studio, they both want to re-encode my edited tivo files that are, for the most part, 480x480. VRD/TVS allow non-compliant frame sizes.

No transitions for me, my interest is the enhancement of Ad-Detective to utilize audio volume in addition to black frame detection. (Already requested on a different thread.)
 
I've been using VRD for many years now and a basic fade to/from black would be very useful as a feature, just as DVD editing and burning is a useful feature to some folks and the Ad-Detective feature to others. Myself, I don't use either of these features as I still use VRD for what it was originally designed to do, which is editing mpeg1 or 2 video/audio.
I would also like the ability to edit elementary files which has been on the cards for just as long as fades. These features would save me time having to use other software applications in addition to VRD but that's what I been doing since I started editing mpegs.
VRD is still the best mpeg editor out there so if these features don't appear, I'll still get by but they would be nice to have.
 

kdixit

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I use VRDTS for quickly removing Ads and making DVDs from TV shows. It is the best/simplest/cheapest tool out there. I am happy with it. If I need to make fancy transitions, I use another cheap editor 'MAGIX Movie Edit Pro'. I would like to keep VRDTS as simple as it is now.

I do not support transitions.
 

Redmondman

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Reading another thread, I thought I'd take a moment to expand on my previous response.

The reason I don't need fades/transitions is that I cut my material to take advantage of the fades, wipes and transitions already in the source material. Most shows fade out to commercial (and in from commercial) so there are natural cut points that already include the fades. Similarly with wipes; I have the luxury of consistent wipes that I can use as splice points. So I haven't had the need for fades & transitions. In broadening my mind a bit, I can see why others might.

The other reason for me personally is that VRD is just one tool in my video toolbox. I do believe in different tools for different scenarios rather than a "one size fits all" approach. I can imagine using VRD to cut & edit TV shows and using other software to build a more sophisticated result.
 

laserfan

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Most shows fade out to commercial (and in from commercial) so there are natural cut points that already include the fades. Similarly with wipes; I have the luxury of consistent wipes that I can use as splice points. So I haven't had the need for fades & transitions. In broadening my mind a bit, I can see why others might.
The key word being "Most", meaning also "but not all". Sometimes cuts-in-and-out of commercial breaks are extremely ugly!

In my case, I have "broadened my mind" to decide that I just don't care that much about absolutely perfect transitions--after all it's only TV!
 

bits

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laserfan wrote:

In my case, I have "broadened my mind" to decide that I just don't care that much about absolutely perfect transitions--after all it's only TV!
+1

Heck most of the TV (boob tube) stuff I record does not even have a transition to or from commercial breaks! Get the commercial out, watch and delete.
 

avpeterjohn

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Sad

As a supporter of a transition/fade feature it would seem that most posters seem to feel that this feature is irrelevant. So I give up on this request.
Just hope that the "Don't care"s never have to edit a badly made mpeg full of jump cuts!!!
The beauty of VRD is the absence of unnecessary recoding. This is not the case with most other video editors which recode the whole file if you make a change.
I have been hoping, for years it seems, for this feature which could mean only recoding at the transition points. It seems I will have to look elsewhere
 
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bits

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As a supporter of a transition/fade feature it would seem that most posters seem to feel that this feature is irrelevant. So I give up on this request.
Just hope that the "Don't care"s never have to edit a badly made mpeg full of jump cuts!!!
The beauty of VRD is the absence of unnecessary recoding. This is not the case with most other video editors which recode the whole file if you make a change.
I have been hoping, for years it seems, for this feature which could mean only recoding at the transition points. It seems I will have to look elsewhere
Just hope that the "Don't care"s never have to edit a badly made mpeg full of jump cuts!!!
How do fades and transitions help with this situation?

IMO a major reason for so many 'don't cares' is that most have have been doing this stuff for so long that the nicey nice stuff is no longer important, have given up on VRD incorporating this feature and have found alternatives. BUT mostly because VRD does what most OTHER software apps can not seem to do....fast accurate mpeg2 file cutting and trimming coupled with fixing the video streams.
 

halfpipe

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A dissolve from one clip to another is pretty well essential. I would upgade to the TVsuite from Plus in a flash.
 
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