Separate VOB Files Not Combining As One VOB file Ready for Editing

Heathsideboy

New member
Hello,

I am using VideoReDo TV Suite Version 4 with H.264 on Windows 7.

I have a bunch of VOB files that I have quick streamed and put into a separate folder so I know they have been quick streamed. I then selected them all and tried to paste them all into VideoReDo as per the instructions that the website posts below: (I selected "Combine" as instructed below).

By putting all the copied VOB files into VideoReDo and then selecting "Combine," VideoReDo is not showing all of the files combined as one big VOB. Instead, it looks like just the last file is being shown in VideoReDo on its own. So the problem is, they are not all combining into one big VOB ready for me to edit. Can anybody tell me why this is happening or if I am doing something wrong?

Thanks

HB

"Using the "combine" feature in VideoReDo: This method works very well and is the preferred technique for non-copy protected DVD files. To combine the multiple VOB files into one file for editing:
a) Copy the desired VOB files from the DVD to your hard drive.
b) In VideoReDo click on File>Open (or the Open button).
c) Highlight all the VOB files starting with VTS_xx_01.VOB. Where xx is a number such as 01 to 09. Do not include VIDEO_TS.VOB or VTS_xx_00.VOB if present.
d) Click on the Open button. If you are prompted to "Combine" or "Join", select the "Combine" option.
VideoReDo will open each the VOB files and logically combine them into one large virtual VOB file."
 

jmc

Active member
Check the video/audio properties. If they are not the same
(frequency,frame rate,bitrate, channels etc.)
then you can not put them into one file.

You will have to find the odd ones and encode them
to the same specs as the other files.

jmc
 

phd

Super Moderator
Combine was designed for un QSF'd files.

If you still have the original DVD folders use Open title from a DVD instead.
 

Heathsideboy

New member
Right, I am a novice so I do not know what you mean.

Let me start at the beginning. The original video came from my camera and so it was MP4 format originally.

I converted all the files to VOB, which then gave me an AUDIO_TS and VIDEO_TS folder. (I assume these are the folders you want me to go to if I select - file/Open title from a DVD.

I then selected the VIDEO_TS folder and it brought up a new window (DVD Title Selector) showing many titles numbering from; VTS_01-PGC 1 all the way along to VTS_21-PGC. I assume that these are all the different DVD VOB titles.

This is the bit where I get stuck! I noticed that Auto QuickStream Fix was automatically checked and so was Hide titles without audio.

Now, how do I get all these titles from here into the editing stream within VideoReDo for me to edit? Or in other words, what should I do next?

Thanks

HB
 

jmc

Active member
Right, I am a novice so I do not know what you mean.
Let me start at the beginning. The original video came from my camera and so it was MP4 format originally.
I converted all the files to VOB, which then gave me an AUDIO_TS and VIDEO_TS folder. (I assume these are the folders you want me to go to if I select - file/Open title from a DVD.
I then selected the VIDEO_TS folder and it brought up a new window (DVD Title Selector) showing many titles numbering from; VTS_01-PGC 1 all the way along to VTS_21-PGC. I assume that these are all the different DVD VOB titles.
This is the bit where I get stuck! I noticed that Auto QuickStream Fix was automatically checked and so was Hide titles without audio.
Now, how do I get all these titles from here into the editing stream within VideoReDo for me to edit? Or in other words, what should I do next?
Thanks HB

Don't know why you converted the mp4s into a dvd folder. ANY conversion degrades the video
quality by varying degrees. Best to avoid it unless no choice.

If you have to work from a dvd folder then you will have to select each single video file in the
dvd listing and load it up in VRD and do your editing.

Or you could load all the MP4s (if specs are the same) up at once and skip all that
by selecting all the MP4s and dropping them on VRD. Then VRD should give you the option
to combine or join the file. I would go with "combine"

jmc
 
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phd

Super Moderator
MP4 files are discreet files containing herader info, etc.

They should be joined and NOT combined.
 

Heathsideboy

New member
I selected all the MP4s and dropped them all into VRD as suggested.

If I choose 'Combine,' the same thing happens with the MP4s as it does when I put the VOB files in. Only the first file is being loaded into VRD and not the other files so none of the chosen files are combining.

If I put all the MP4 files in and choose 'Join,' VRD goes through the motions as if it is putting each file in individually but when it has finished, only the last file is shown in the editor. Either I have a setting wrong or they are not joining/combining because of something I have done incorrectly.

From what I have described, can you tell me what is wrong and why this is not working? This is driving me nuts!

Thanks

HB
 

jmc

Active member
I selected all the MP4s and dropped them all into VRD as suggested.

If I choose 'Combine,' the same thing happens with the MP4s as it does when I put the VOB files in. Only the first file is being loaded into VRD and not the other files so none of the chosen files are combining.
If I put all the MP4 files in and choose 'Join,' VRD goes through the motions as if it is putting each file in individually but when it has finished, only the last file is shown in the editor. Either I have a setting wrong or they are not joining/combining because of something I have done incorrectly.
From what I have described, can you tell me what is wrong and why this is not working? This is driving me nuts!
ThanksHB
Hmm, that was interesting, just tried it. I've always started with mpgs and created mp4s.
Mpgs "combine" with no problem. But as pointed out mp4s do not "combine"
and have to be "joined" which worked.

With V4 and mp4s I dropped 3 mp4s on VRD and choose "join".
Then an option popped up for each file in a row. (Joiner description input)
Once all the files were loaded in the "joiner"...

Now you have to go to the top of VRD4 and click on "joiner".
You can "Edit Joiner List" to see what is in there or
"Create video from joiner list..."

They all ended up together in one larger file with a
"fast frame copy"-means no encoding happened.

Now, you can (not recommended) grab all the main vobs
VTS_01_1.VOB...> till the size drops below 1,048,574 KB.
In the VIDEO_TS folder I'm looking at VTS_01_6.VOB is only 373KB.
Thoses should be the main video. The other VOBs may be interviews
deleted scenes etc.(VTS_02 etc.).

You can "combine" those mpg vob files. BUT there "might"
be problems might not. which is why VRD recommends you
use the "open title from dvd" menu option.
That option may give you all the tv shows (for example) on the
disk in one lump or in seperate files. I've seen both listed at the same time.

Grabbing/dropping the vob files and the "combine" option will always give one
big file.

I've never found any format off a dvd except for mpgs.
(may exist but I've never seen it)
(BluRays seem to be able to have many formats on one disk)
Certain aspects of the video files HAVE to be the same in order
to get them to combine.

I don't know if the "joiner" option will recode the videos to match or not.
As i work with dvd mpgs there have been few problems.
I am SO glad I don't work with "over the air" capture... that is a MESS.
Broadcasters seem to change specs willy nilly.


Good luck,
jmc
 
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Heathsideboy

New member
jmc,

I think I have sorted it. I copied all of my MP4s (FYI, these files came from a video camera and not from DVDs) and put them in VRD exactly how you did it above with 3 MP4s and chose "join" as you did. I am not getting the option for each file in a row as you are getting (Joiner description input). All that happens with me is that VRD flashes for each file as though each file is being added together but I get no options or messages as you mention you have.

Once they were all in, then I went to "joiner" on VRD and selected "Edit Joiner List" and all the MP4s that I chose were in there. Then I selected "Create video from joiner list" and this made one long MP4 as I was trying to achieve in the first place. Now I can put that into the VRD editor and do my edits on one long file.

Once I have done the editing, can I then burn the one long fully edited MP4 file onto a DVD disk and will it come out okay?

Thanks
 
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jmc

Active member
jmc,

I think I have sorted it. I copied all of my MP4s (FYI, these files came from a video camera and not from DVDs) and put them in VRD exactly how you did it above with 3 MP4s and chose "join" as you did. I am not getting the option for each file in a row as you are getting (Joiner description input). All that happens with me is that VRD flashes for each file as though each file is being added together but I get no options or messages as you mention you have.

Once they were all in, then I went to "joiner" on VRD and selected "Edit Joiner List" and all the MP4s that I chose were in there. Then I selected "Create video from joiner list" and this made one long MP4 as I was trying to achieve in the first place. Now I can put that into the VRD editor and do my edits on one long file.
Once I have done the editing, can I then burn the one long fully edited MP4 file onto a DVD disk and will it come out okay?
Thanks
Glad to see it worked for you!

Yep, mine always seems to get the "description" dialogue.
As long as it worked for you is "good enough".

I've never created more then a hard drive DVD folder or .ISO with VRD so not much
experience here with burning dvds. Know next to nothing about dvd menus.

I would always "Author to VIDEO_TS" which creates a hard drive dvd folder first to test size and function before burning.
Some seem to talk about the bad dvds they are making and they do not seem to do any testing, just jump right
into burning a disk. I would at least use a rewritable disk to save disks.

Now going to a "Playable" dvd is going to require the video to be recoded to a MPG type file(VOB)
Unless you are writing a "data disk". Again I have little experience with this...but
just looking at the VRD dvd menu options I don't get the impression that VRD can
write a "data disk". It seems to be all "VIDEO_TS" options and that means recoding to
a MPG type file(VOB).

Now most modern dvd players are pretty good at playing different type video files but to be
most compatible you would need to go with "VIDEO_TS" options.

But almost any other disk burning software will let you burn a "data disk" of whatever type of file you
want to put on the disk.

Good luck.
jmc
 
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