Major Recode Required ?!?!?!

rockcat

New member
I transfer TV programs from my TiVo Premier-XL to my PC using the TV Desktop software or kmttg. I then edit the parts I want using VideoReDo TVsuite v5, and I save them as MPEG-2 Transport Stream (*.ts) files (suitable for authoring to blu-ray). Usually, when VideoReDo is saving the file, I'll see it alternate between "encoding frames" (at my edit points) and "fast frame copy". The same is always true when I join multiple parts from multiple files using The Joiner...until today.

Today, while attempting to join multiple pieces (roughly 20) using The Joiner, prior to clicking "Save", the "Save" dialog box displays "Major Recode Required". Accordingly, when I click "Save", the saving process is long and slow and continuously displays "Recoding output." There is noticeable pixelation in the resulting file. When I save any of the parts individually, I get the normal "encoding frames / fast frame copy" display. Why is VideoReDo suddenly insisting upon recoding the output, especially when it doesn't want or need to recode any of the files individually? This is really frustrating! Help!
 

Danr

Administrator
Staff member
One of the 20 files in your joiner list probably doesn't match the others and that's triggering the full recode.
 

rockcat

New member
Yes! That was the problem! I had 10 files (with a total of 18 segments), all recorded from different channels, but all were ABC-owned channels or affiliates, so all were 1280 x 720 with a frame rate of 59.94, EXCEPT for the last file which was from MSNBC: 1280 x 1080 with a frame rate of 29.97 fps. I deleted this last file from The Joiner and my new file saved in less than 45 seconds, rather than the "major recode" version which had a "save time" of more than 6 min! The boost in picture quality is quite evident.

It's funny, I've been using VideoReDo for years, but apparently I never previously had cause to combine video clips with different encoding sizes/frame rates.

As soon as I read your reply, I immediately knew which file was causing the problem.

Thanks Dan! Much appreciated!
 

Danr

Administrator
Staff member
You're welcome. You could, of course, recode just the one MSNBC file to 720p @ 59.94 and then added that to the joiner list.
 

Dan203

Senior Developer
Staff member
It's funny, I've been using VideoReDo for years, but apparently I never previously had cause to combine video clips with different encoding sizes/frame rates.
Previous version of VRD would just reject a file that didn't match the others. In v5 we changed it to allow it but if there is a large difference it forces a recode.
 
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