For security purposes this program will not run while system debuggers are active....

echo14612

Member
I've seen this issue discussed before in the forum (see, for example www.videoredo.net/msgBoard/showthread.php?t=15740). I haven't seen an explanation or a solution, though.

I've been getting the message occasionally for years, with no discernible pattern. Eventually VRD will open again, but I don't know why. Today it happened again. I rebooted and I am still getting the message. Does anybody know how to keep this from happening or at least a way to get VRD back?
 

Danr

Administrator
Staff member
This message means there is an application that is using the system debugging API.

What OS are you using?

If you can run, from the command line:

tasklist > tasklist.txt

and email that to us at support we can follow up.

Thanks.
 

echo14612

Member
Thanks for the reply. The next time this happens, I'll do as you suggest. As far as I know, there are no debuggers on my system and none (that I could identify as such) were listed in the Task Manager processes.
 

DrP

Member
It can also mean there is a 'hypervisor' running on your machine. Do you have any virtual machines running or have you installed Windows' virtual machine support?

Some advanced trojans take over your system and run as a hypervisor too, so it wouldn't hurt to check your system for viruses / trojans in 'off line mode'.
 

dmikov

New member
So are you planning to fix it/remove check from your software?
I am thinking about buying one, but hunting for the processes that run on my machine after paying $92 is not in my plans.
 

Danr

Administrator
Staff member
It's not something we are specifically checking for, it appears to be something built into our license manager software. I'll contact them and ask about the cause and/or removal.
 

TimA-C

Member
I vaguely remember reading somewhere that somebody turned off some script debugging settings in Internet Exlorer and that had solved their instance of this problem - not sure if it was a VRD user or not? Might have been some other bit of software that had been giving a similar message.
 

rgoold

New member
I think I first saw this message when I had an episode guide web page open in IE and then tried to open VRD at the same time. When I saw it again some time later I spotted the common factor.

It seems that there is something in the stack which detects certain words in open file names as undesirable programs, even though they are not actually programs. I only know of one problematic word but I expect there are others too.

Try this - create an empty file called Armageddon.txt, open it in notepad or IE, and I think you will find that VRD will refuse to start.

Since this is a word which crops up in the titles of any number of web pages, documentary names, episode titles etc, it may account for some of these incidents.

Perhaps this is also the behaviour you are seeing?
 

JMRDV

Member
I just tried your armageddon.txt trick and sure enough VRD refuses to open and shows the debugger popup message. Very interesting .. Makes me think of they roadrunner tv shows of yesteryear.
 

darucla23

Member
Armageddon was the name of a pesky and pretty harmful virus back in the late 90s. It did nothing for months and then executed on a specific date. Perhaps this is what something on the system is reacting to.
 

Jackersen

New member
I think I first saw this message when I had an episode guide web page open in IE and then tried to open VRD at the same time. When I saw it again some time later I spotted the common factor.

It seems that there is something in the stack which detects certain words in open file names as undesirable programs, even though they are not actually programs. I only know of one problematic word but I expect there are others too.

Try this - create an empty file called Armageddon.txt, open it in notepad or IE, and I think you will find that VRD will refuse to start.

Since this is a word which crops up in the titles of any number of web pages, documentary names, episode titles etc, it may account for some of these incidents.

Perhaps this is also the behaviour you are seeing?


Amazing... I get this message for the first time today whilst running batch manager with about twenty recording edits in the list. So i google it and find this post. Anyway i go back and check and sure enough ARMageddon just happens to be one of the titles in the batch manager that i am editing......

Why for????
 

Danr

Administrator
Staff member
It's not VideoReDo scanning for these words. We have no such logic in the application.
 

jmc

Active member
Hmm, just tried the Armageddon.txt file trick and the only program that would not run was VRD.
TMPGEnc,VMware and the other half doz. programs I tried all ran.

Really weird.
Something to remember for the future editing efforts.

jmc
 

Danr

Administrator
Staff member
Why is the file named, .txt and not a typical video file type (.ts, mpg, mp4, etc)?
 

BDGillard

New member
Why is the file named, .txt and not a typical video file type (.ts, mpg, mp4, etc)?
confirmed when an blank file "Armageddon.txt" is open in Notebook VDR5 will not open, error message :- For security purposes this program will not run while system debuggers are active. the only virus software I'm using is windows defender
 

Danr

Administrator
Staff member
Yes we were able to duplicate that as well. I'll have to email the license vendor and see if there's anything that can be done about it.
 

jmc

Active member
Why is the file named, .txt and not a typical video file type (.ts, mpg, mp4, etc)?
Changed a MP4 file to "Armageddon.mp4" and does not seem to matter what you open the file with.
V4,V5 will not open after that. (while the offending file is open)
Opening VRD before that point seems to be ok (as in VRD continues to function).

Or an "Armageddon.ac3" open in audacity.

Or txt file open in notepad etc.


jmc
 
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