Finished size on disk

zebsdad

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Here's what I do:

1. Record to -RW a movie from TV on LP (4hrs). Panasonic DMR ES15. Movie is over 2 hrs. Finalize disk.

2. Copy disk to HDD with DVD Copy 1.0.27

3. Remove Commercials with Video ReDo. Output as elementary streams.

4. Author edited movie with DVD AuthorGUI. Output is Vidio_TS and Audio_TS folders.

5. Burn TS folder with IMG Burn 2.3.2.0 to -R output is DVD Video.

All this works great. Question: Why does it burn using only half of the disk space on the -R disk?

Using Pioneer model 112D with latest firmware, XP Pro SP2 +all updates.
 

phd

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Does the time appear to be correct?

Nothing you are using would signify the file is being reencoded to a smaller file size.

I assume the initial file size of the ".VLST.MPG" file created by DVD Copy is about 2GB and the edited file size is about 1.3-1.5GB?

What is the total size of the files on the finished VIDEO_TS folder and DVD-R?
 

zebsdad

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This was Prizzi's Honor at 130 min runtime.

Copied size was 2.529815 Ghz.

Edited size 1.889 (mpv) and .241 (Ac3). There were no commercials only a short cut on the front and another on the end

Authored size: Video_TS with VOBs of 1.048, 1.048, and .106

Burned to disk the same size. for a total of 2.1 Ghz.

My Panasonic has a selectable speed of FR which spreads the recording over the entire disk. I wondered if there was a burn program that would do the same thing. I don't find any options in any af my programs that address the subject.
 

phd

Super Moderator
So what's wrong? That all looks correct

Unedited - 2.5GB
Edited - 1.9 + .2 = 2.1GB
Authored - 1 + 1 + .1 = 2.1GB
DVD - 2.1GB
 

BaysideBas

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You don't seem to understand, Pat. All that wasted space on the disc..... Now if there was only an app that would make use of it, maybe by adding previously non-existing detail to the picture, wouldn't that be something....

Excuse me now, nurse is here with my meds....
 

phd

Super Moderator
Or put 2 movies on the DVD.

Or record at a higher quality. (SP vs. LP)
 

Anole

Moderator
I'm confused, too

I've read this thread several times, trying to figure out what the question was.
As far as I can see, all the numbers add up properly.
However, I certainly do not understand the following.
Perhaps it has to do with the real question . . .
My Panasonic has a selectable speed of FR which spreads the recording over the entire disk.
I wondered if there was a burn program that would do the same thing.
I don't find any options in any of my programs that address the subject.
Is this the mode where most of the recording is at high speed (and quality), but if you start running out of disc, the recorder switches to a lower speed?
If so, then I will say that there is no parallel in the computerized DVD burning world.

I think in the first post, you said you recorded a 2 hour show at the 4 hour speed.
And it did/does/should then fill about half the disc.
If you were to record in a mode where the recording speed changed mid-way, you would have a heck of a time editing/authoring/making a DVD out of that! :cool:
 

zebsdad

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I'm learning more and more about this video recording every day. I was the one confused about how much time was recorded on the surface of the disk. Your questions served to prod my "little gray cells".

If I record something at LP (4 hr) speed and the material has 2.5 GB, then it will use only a little over half of the disk. After editing it will have 2.1 GB and when I burn to a disk, the burn program knows that the disk will hold 4.7 GB and therefore uses only half of the available space for the 2.1 GB.

This all leads me to believe that recording at XP, SP, LP, EP, or FR has to do with time and burning to a disk has to do with space available?

FR is a record mode on my Panasonic in which for a timed recording the speeds are changed to fit the material onto the disk so that the entire disk surface is used for the period of time selected.

I am recording Ocean's Eleven (the good one from 1960) from AMC today and I will record it in FR Mode and report the sizes as I did for the other example. Maybe some knowledge will be imparted to my gray cells.....
 

zebsdad

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Here are results of Ocean's Eleven:

-RW disk recorded in FR Mode 4098 MB
Copied to HDD 4117 MB
Edited about 30 mins of commercials. Output elementary streams 3057 MB
Authored size 3287 MB
Burn size (used 79% of disk) 3134 MB

Result was a very high quality movie.

The Prizzi movie was 10 minutes longer recorded in LP and burn used about 49% of the disk with a little lose of detail.

Therefore I think when the movie is more than 2 hours, I need to use FR mode and with less than 2 hours SP will do it considering that I only put one movie per disk now.

Is this close to being correct? Thanks for your teaching comments....
 

RickN

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Therefore I think when the movie is more than 2 hours, I need to use FR mode and with less than 2 hours SP will do it considering that I only put one movie per disk now.

Is this close to being correct? Thanks for your teaching comments....
Zebsdad,

I have an ES20 and use SP for anything less than 2 hrs and FR for anything over 2 hrs. You've got it! Your results matched expectations based on recording rate. :)

Best,

Rick
 
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