DVD Copy program for Home recorded DVDs

#61
Pat,

I tried this on several othe DVDs and it works fine. For some reason just that one DVD does not work. I guess I was just unlucky to choose a bad DVD on my first attempt. I am not sure why it did not work, it is a standard DVD.

I'm happy wit the results on the other DVDs I have tried but let me know if you are interested in pursuing this for debugging purposes.

Tom
 

phd

Super Moderator
#62
Since it is only one there may be an anomaly. (Defective media or something.)

Is it a commercial DVD or home-recorded?

Can you list the directory structure here?

Also let me know which files showed up in the file open dialog box.
 
#63
Pat,

Now that the holidays are (almost) over I had a few moments to see what was going wrong and discovered it to be ..... user error. I choose the wrong .VOB. :rolleyes:

Thanks for the nice piece of software. I have been doing this "manually" for some time now and this is much easier.

Tom
 
#65
I don't know how involved it would be but I'm sure that if your program could be modified to automatically read a folder (user's choice) of mpeg's and have Ad-Detective mark all the commercials and then have VRD save the 'fixed' files it would be the "Ultimate" Program.

Just a thought

eclas

Currently the program is a standalone application with nothing written to the hard drive except the files that you see.

I'll see if that can be done somehow.

There was an earlier request for selecting QSF file destination location. I had wanted just a simple copy and QSF application but I'll see about including that as an alternative.

What I thought about adding was an option for this complete sequence:

Copy VOBs/VRO to hard drive
Create VLST file
QSF VLST file
Ad-Detective scan
Output edited file

Who would find this useful?
 

phd

Super Moderator
#66
Yes it could. This was created to read and copy VOB or VRO files from a home-recorded DVD (all formats) or DVD folder.

I believe if you search the forum others have created script files as well as I remember someone created a program for this specific purpose.

In both cases, I believe they could be scheduled.
 

phd

Super Moderator
#67
I've uploaded a new version to the FTP 1.0.26

This will also copy the VOB or VRO files to your hard drive, QuickStream Fix, process the fixed file with Ad-Detective and output an edited file.
Use the button: Copy/QSF/AD

This uses the default settings from VideoReDo so make sure you have optimized your Ad-Detective settings as well as have "Automatically Cut Detected Scenes" checked.

Be aware that you will need about 3 times the DVD capacity in the destination folder.
Copied files
QSF file
Edited output file

There are 2 play buttons. One for the QSF file (Play QSF MPG) and one for the edited file (Play AD MPG.)

Currently all files will be output to the same destination folder. I'll be adding an option to specify a different destination folder for the edited file in a future release.

Remember, this process can take a while to complete. It's a long one for a full DVD depending on your CPU and hard drive speed.
 

phd

Super Moderator
#68
I've uploaded a new version to the FTP 1.0.27

This has a hidden feature to keep functionality simple for novices.

If you click the "Ad-Detective Destination Folder" box on the main screen, you can divert the final Ad-Detective output MPG to a different folder than the one you select for the destination folder with the buttons. This new destination folder remains in effect until you click the box and change the destination folder to a different location or until you quit the program.

Restarting the program sets it back to the default destination using the output buttons.

This only affects output of the final AD scan file using the "Copy/QSF/AD" button.

BTW, has anyone tried 1.0.26 or 1.0.27?

Do you like the new capability?

Is it working well for you?
 

kira13

New member
#69
Well, since no one has replied to this yet, I might as well post my first post here. I just started using VRD and downloaded the newest version of DVD Copy. I don't have that many movies on DVD to copy, but the ones I do have (and the main reason I wanted to edit them) take multiple DVDs. (They were created by my Pioneer DVD-recording TiVo.)

With that in mind, I haven't made full use of all the features in DVD Copy yet. But I do have a couple of questions and an observation.

The questions:
1) I didn't run Ad-Detective because I wasn't sure if the scene markers would be saved when I later combined the output .mpgs from all 3 DVDs. Would they have been? Or does running AD with DVD Copy only work if the cuts are made automatically? (In which case, I wouldn't have run AD because I want to be able to check them all manually.)

2) Is it better to Combine or to Join the 3 .mpgs to get the full continuous movie?

The observation: I had to make separate subfolders for each DVD's output because I had DVD Copy copy the VOB files, so when I got to the 2nd DVD of the movie, it saw the first DVD's VOB files and refused to write over them (which is good!). This probably should have been obvious, but I didn't think of it until it happened. (I guess I was expecting it to write them into a VIDEO_TS folder in the destination folder I picked.)
 

phd

Super Moderator
#70
1. Since you want to be able to confirm the cuts, use the QSF button only. The AD button will also output a completely edited file. I included this because someopne asked for it. I personally prefer to confirm all cuts. You can also simply load the VPrj file into VideoReDo which will have all the marks and cuts so you can confirm if you are hapopy with the final Ad-Detective output file.

2. The program uses the combine feature of VideoReDo to combine all of the VOBs on one DVD. Only the first file is listed in the file open dialog box but you can see all of the VOBs that will be combined in the list box on the main window. If you are referring to the MPGs created from 3 separate DVDs using this process, you should use the Join feature for the separate MPG files created.

Since I had designed the program for my personal use, I never created the option for subfolders since I was editing one file at a time. I simply deleted the extraneous files, renamed the finished file and started a second DVD copy while I was editing the first.

I could potentially automate it with a subfolder creation having the default date and time and allow for user renaming of the folder?

Thanks for the feedback.
 

kira13

New member
#71
phd wrote:

"1. Since you want to be able to confirm the cuts, use the QSF button only. The AD button will also output a completely edited file. I included this because someopne asked for it. I personally prefer to confirm all cuts. You can also simply load the VPrj file into VideoReDo which will have all the marks and cuts so you can confirm if you are hapopy with the final Ad-Detective output file."

Okay, just as I suspected. In my limited experience so far, some movies come out with perfect cuts chosen by AD and others don't. I prefer to confirm.

"2. The program uses the combine feature of VideoReDo to combine all of the VOBs on one DVD. Only the first file is listed in the file open dialog box but you can see all of the VOBs that will be combined in the list box on the main window. If you are referring to the MPGs created from 3 separate DVDs using this process, you should use the Join feature for the separate MPG files created."

Yes, I was referring to the MPGs from the separate DVDs. The reason I was wondering was because originally all three DVDs were one file on my TiVo. I wasn't sure if when it split them to record to multiple DVDs that was the same as splitting the file into separate VOBs for one DVD, or somehow more involved. I used Join to be on the safe side.

"Since I had designed the program for my personal use, I never created the option for subfolders since I was editing one file at a time. I simply deleted the extraneous files, renamed the finished file and started a second DVD copy while I was editing the first."

"I could potentially automate it with a subfolder creation having the default date and time and allow for user renaming of the folder?"

That sounds nice, although I wasn't requesting a feature. I was mostly just pointing out the need to be careful to potential future new users like me. I wound up creating the subfolders first and then pointing the output to each subfolder in turn. I think if I *did* want the feature (and it's not all that important to me, but maybe others want it), I'd want the subfolders to be named "Xxxx1" or "Xxxx 1" where Xxxx is the name of my movie and the digit increments (Xxxx1, Xxxx2, etc.).

I doubt I'll have much occasion in the future to need to rewrite multiple-DVD movies to a single DVD because I now transfer my TiVo movies directly to my computer. (I just found my stash of DVD-RWs that I had bought with the intent to write movies onto those from the TiVo so as not to waste DVD-Rs.)

"Thanks for the feedback."

You're welcome. This little utility really streamlined my transfers of those movies. Thanks for sharing it.
 

zep

New member
#72
Hi Pat,
Sorry for the breach of protocal and thanks very much for helping me.

Yes the "play MPG" button did not prompt a review of the finished clip in the VRD player where I expected to see it.

Will upgrade Quicktime to accomodate mpeg.

Could not get any of the mpeg clips provided by your program to play in the Flash 8 Encoder or Authoring Stage. They will play in a Windows Viewer. I realize they must be published to view as a movie, however, the video portion of the clip is not viewable while the audio portion comes through all these applications and is sittinging the Flash library as a sound clip.

Was directed to VRD from the Adobe Flash 8 forum as a method to remux VOBs and import them into Flash.

These are my videoed and authored dvds and this work flow is vital to handling and web viewing of my work, so thank you again.

zep
 

phd

Super Moderator
#73
Sorry for the breach of protocal and thanks very much for helping me.

Yes the "play MPG" button did not prompt a review of the finished clip in the VRD player where I expected to see it.
Not a breach in protocol. Just helps segregate a VideoReDo issue from the DVD Copy program.

Had you used the "VLST +QSF" or "Copy + QSF" buttons already to create an output file?

Did you try using the button after the QuickStream Fix?

Did you move the file to a new location?

Had you restarted the DVD Copy program?

The button will look for the exact file name in the location it had just rendered to.

The information on Flash 8 mentions some features need QuickTime. It's possible that is needs the MPEG2 decoder to playback MPEG files also.

Try it again once you have the playback component installed properly in QuickTime.
 

zep

New member
#74
Hi Pat,

I have been using this program in a variety of ways and sequences. But the critical fact remains that in all the results the final .mpg clip is not recognized in the Flash encoder.
It does recognize and encode the audio file from the same clip.

It neither presents an image in the preview window (remains black) nor offers any advanced encoding features from the dialog box. In short it does not see the video.

After running this program in the several various ways I end up with three files; VTS_27_1.VLST (1KB)
VTS_27_1.VOB (84,206KB)
VTS_27_VLST(this file has the Windows Movie Clip icon, is labeled "Movie Clip" and at 83,421KB is about the same size as the VOB.

I did up grade QuickTime as well as added the mpeg 2 playback option ($20).
The "Movie Clip" plays beautifully in a Windows Player w/ audio.
When I open this same clip in QuickTime it plays the video only with a rather choppy beginning.

This file is only viewed as audio in Flash 8.

This is so distressing because it is so close to doing precisely what I need.

I hope you have some clue as to some small piece of this that's asking to be set right.

Thank You
zep
 

phd

Super Moderator
#75
For QuickTime, try resaving the file in VideoReDo and selecting MPEG audio by clicking the Options button in the file save dialog box.
 

zep

New member
#76
Thanks Pat, that put the audio back in Quicktime.
Still can't figure why Flash can't read these Movie Clips.
Files are better in Windows Player by factor of ten.
zep
 
#77
Broke??!!!

Haven't used this in a long time and needed it today for a DVD that VRD wouldn't open successfully (to QSF it). Upon launch (1.0.27) I get a dialog:

"An exception of class RegistryAccessErrorException was not handled. The application must shut down."

Then when I click OK DVDCopy disappears, but before I do this I notice that the box that has opened for it, entitled "DVD File Copy / VLST / QSF / AD Creator" has in red in the last (VLST + QSF) box the following:

VideoReDo not available

I tried it in both of my 2 VRD directories, one for 2.5.4.510 (regged to me) and 3.0.1.525

EDIT: Problem found-and-fixed. DVDCopy apparently prefers the version in the VideoReDoPlus directory (not TVS) and this version had somehow gotten corrupted when I installed TVS. Re-installed VRD 510 and it loads-up fine. Sorry for the bandwidth.
 
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#78
happy camper

Someone just recently asked how best to do the job this software is designed for.
I pointed them to this thread.

'Till now, I'd never used it, but by happy coincidence, I just got a deal on a new DVD recorder.
So, I have fired up Pat's wonderful copy program twice in the last week.
I have it make a big .mpg when it's done.
That takes a bit of space, with four .VOBs at 1gb each, then a 4gb .mpg, but it's all automatic and hand's off, so who cares? :rolleyes:

Anyway, I'd like to give thanks too, for a super nice utility.
The things one learns on the VRD forum . . . :cool:
 

phd

Super Moderator
#79
@laserfan:
I set up the program to check the registry for VRD+. I guess I should rewrite a little of it when I get a chance to recognize also TVS.

@Anole:
I have always had a preference for first copying the files to the hard drive, then QSF. Personally I have always found this the best way to go. It may take longer but it works every time.

If you use the "VLST + QSF" button, it will simply create a VLST file in the destination folder and begin to QSF the file based upon the VLST directly from the DVD. This will save the 4GB of drive space. It's also a good method to use if you've already "extracted" your files to the hard drive already since you don't need to use 3 X 4GB worth of space.
 
#80
Like I say, I've only used it twice, so I'm still a beginner.
Even so, I'm quite happy. And that's on a slow laptop! :)
Getting off the laptop DVD player as quickly as possible is probably a good thing.

I'll try your "VLST + QSF" suggestion next time I have a home-recorder DVD to import.
In addition to saving space, it might be faster.


PS: it does need an Icon, though . . .
 
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