Dvd Authoring programs and Sync

Harry

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which dvd authoring programs do you use?

i tried

tmpgenc dvd author
+ all is in sync
- no menu flexibility at all, e.g. i can't combine 4:3 with 16:9 movies in one menu (have to split them to tracks)

ulead dvd workshop 2
+ sound gets out of sync randomly (it remuxes)
- very good menu editing functionality

do you have any suggestions for me?
 

Danr

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You might want to try DVDLab. Great sync, at least with VideoReDo files and totally custom menu layouts.
 

Harry

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thanx, already tried the latest beta of the pro version (i need multi vts as i have 16:9 and 4:3 mixed). it's a bit circumvent in comparison with ulead's dvd workshop, eg referring to how to make animated menus. besides i had problems with some of my muxed files, i didnt hear audio in the compiled project. so i demuxed the streams first, tried it again and everything went fine.

did a lot of cuts today with 231, no problems at all at my side! i even took the LOTR, cut out where the balrog attacks gandalf, then i tooke THE TWO TOWERS, cut out the scene where gandalf fell down with the balrog and joined them both to one big balrog fighting scene. awesome. :D
 

Danr

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I have found in DVDLab that it seems to work best with files demuxed either by VideoReDo or demuxed by DVDLab on import. Demuxing at burn time used to give me an occasional sync error so I don't do that anymore.
 

Fortunado

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It has been a bit since any discussion happened on this thread, but I do have what might be a helpful observation about Ulead DVD Workshop...

If you are importing MPEG files and you leave the quality set to the highest level (which is the default, I believe), the program will make no attempt to recompress the video or audio. If you have some large MPEG files, you might find that you have created a DVD that is too large to fit on recordable media - your solution is to have DVD Workshop save the DVD to a folder and then to use DVDShrink or something similar to reduce the size to fit.

Anyhow, Harry is right - DVD Workshop is much more capable in menu creation, though it has some silly shortcomings. The one that annoys me the most is that you cannot set the thumbnail video to start anywhere but the start of a clip. If you are doing TV episodes, it looks totally arse to have the intro sequence showing in 4 little windows...

F
 

bigdaddy

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I am having all kinds of problems keeping videos in sync using DVDlab. I have tried everything I can think of and cannot get consistant results.

All of the videos are from Videoredo and are in sync before I try to author them.

I've tried to let VRD save to elementry streams, to let DVDlab do it, tried relaxed (alternative) multiplexing and main.

I just don't know what to do next. Can somebody post a step by step idiots guide to authoring in DVDlab to keep a movie in sync.

There has to be a step I'm missing.
 

Danr

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Which version of DVDLab are you using?
Which version of VideoReDo are you using?
NTSC or PAL?
Source of MPEG2 material?
 

Danr

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With the DVB card is it possible that DVDLab is having problems with the very long GOPs? There's an undocumented feature in VideoReDo that will show you information about the GOP size, and optionally shorten long GOPs. If you're interested in trying it, then email me at support@videoredo.com.
 

hareslade

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another sound sync prob with DVDlab 1.3

Hi Dan and all
I'm in a similar situation to BigDaddy (?)
I'm using DVDlab 1.3, VDR build 243 (can't keep up!), PAL (UK) and embarking on burning some DVD's.... (not used any other system previously, so don't have faith yet!!!)

I'm using ex- Hauppuage DEC2000 digital TV files, which produces files which play ok in the players, if they've been passed through VideoReDo.

The files from VRD are ok, sound/video in sync (as well as they ever are! due to poor TV technician-ship) , but whether I demux in VRD, or demux in DVDLab, I get appalling out-of sync sound (by up to 2 seconds) when replaying a 'DVDLab produced' DVD hard disc file set (played in PowerDVD5 or WinDVD4), and also from a DVD disc burned from that file set and played in a pc DVD player.

My test files are about 1000 Mbytes each, out-of-sync happens even if I just use one mpeg file, and demux/compile it in DVDLab, with the simplest menu possible. It seems to start in proper sync but it degrades, and does not 'pop back' in sync if the DVD file player is stopped and started from the same place in the file.

The sound quality is fine, there are minor 'ticks' but its unlike a 'faulty' software driver problem, the sound quality is being retained on the DVDLab-produced DVD file.

Can't find a way round this one, it's not a prob in VRD presumably, because the files are great on pretty well any PC MPeg2 player after 'save as' in VRD.

I'm using the bottom two stream settings only, 'on' in VRD. There are no comments from the VRD 'completed' window after 'save as' of the files.
help please?
 

Danr

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Have you tried the "alternative multiplexor" in DVDLab? Sometimes this helps, a lot.

The "Output Stream Parameter" only affects the way packets are formed when writing a Program Stream. All that information is stripped when demuxing to elem. streams.
 

hareslade

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DanR said:
Have you tried the "alternative multiplexor" in DVDLab? Sometimes this helps, a lot.
OK I'll do as you suggest, plus I saw another thread here where 'movie factory' option is unchecked in VRD

Is the DVDLab alternative multiplexor a DVD project option, or does it come up in the 'compile' window, or elsewhere?


Thanks Dan
 

Danr

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The MOVIE FACTORY option MUST BE UN-CHECKED for DVDLAB.

The Alternative (Releaxed) is on the compile page about halfway down.

Let me know how it goes.
 

hareslade

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DanR said:
Let me know how it goes.
Hi
Some success....!
I've got the audio sync correct now on the replay of the DVDLab DVD fileset. I hope :roll:

As you say, use the alternative multiplexer - BUT - must have the 'force audio' checkbox ticked, or no audio during DVD play (e.g in PowerDvd).

The 'force audio mode' is applied to the DVD hard disc fileset (not just at 'burn') although that's not obvious from the DVDLab screen layout.

So my process is,
1/ record DVB .mpg file from TV (Pal UK) via DEC2000 (terrestrial aerial not satellite)
2/ open file into VRD and save as demuxed file set, with 'options' set to 8MB bitrate. Use non-movie factory setting...
3/ Use DVDLab to make the DVD file set on hard disk, use alternative compile engine, MUST have force audio box ticked.

VRD doesn't reject the original DEC2000 mpg file, but DVDLab does reject the demuxed files when using the 'normal' DVD compliant multiplexer.

Whether I'll get a good DVD on burning is unknown yet, but progress so far is encouraging.

Incidentally, allowing DVDLab to demux the VRD-produced mpg file directly, did get acceptance to compile to DVD using the normal multiplexer, but the results were really out of sync, and the video was running unsmoothly.


Thanks
 

Danr

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Code:
VRD doesn't reject the original DEC2000 mpg file, but DVDLab does reject the demuxed files when using the 'normal' DVD compliant multiplexer.
I don't understand this. What do you mean by reject? DVDLab has never rejected any demuxed files I've given it.

Perhaps you could upload a small clip for me to test.
 

hareslade

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DanR said:
What do you mean by reject? DVDLab has never rejected any demuxed files I've given it.

Perhaps you could upload a small clip for me to test.
Hi
This is presumably nothing to do with VideoRedo?

DVDLab refuses the demux files at compile stage as 'no good' - but only when using the 'normal' 'extra DVD Compliant' compiler. The 'alternative' 'relaxed' compiler accepts the demux files ok.

If you remember, there's something weird about DEC2000 mpg files - they improved it with v2.17, but v2.16 was worse. Ultimately I am satisfied just to get the damn things working at all!

Do you think it worth getting a clip together? I'm not 100% sure at what stage I noticed this prob, and it doesn't matter anyway as the alternative multiplexer seems to be 'in tune' with the files.
 

Danr

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If you don't mind, I would appreciate a short clip (10-20mb). I'm trying to track down another, totally unrelated issue, and I'm searching for clues. You never know, but perhaps your clip could help.

Thanks.
 
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