Batch manager features/issues

Winnewup

Member
My english is not so good, but I'll try...

I switched to VRD5 (from VRD4) a few weeks ago and I have two questions about the new batch Manager.

1. Note-window
If I cut several videos with the batch Manager, sometimes the program seems to have problems to find the timestamps and then a note-window appears.
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I think it's good to this Information, but the batch process stops until I confirm this note! If you would like to run the batch manager without sitting in front of the computer most of the time, this won't work, because TV broadcastings frequently have this problem. Most of the time, the output file has no errors. It would be nice to get this Information at the end of the process in the output info, so that the batch manager can work without manual operations until there is a serious problem.

2. overview of completed tasks
I really like the new overview in the batch manager. But would it be possible to get an information in the completed tasks if there have been problems while encoding/cutting a file? In the example below the third output file "...2_12" has some errors which are shown in the detailed output infos.
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But in the overview you will find a green checkmark.
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It would be nice to get the same symbol as in the detailed output infos (yellow exclamation mark). Then it would be possible to see problems in the overview so that you can change to the detailed Information only if it is required.


Thanks in advance.
Frank
 

phd

Super Moderator
For #2 you can expand the info and get the old style listing. Symbol on the right.
 

Danr

Administrator
Staff member
1. Note-window
If I cut several videos with the batch Manager, sometimes the program seems to have problems to find the timestamps and then a note-window appears.
This is a good idea, but this isn't new to V5, V4 should have have given you similar results. For now, if you get this lot, then I recommend doing batch QuickStream fix of all your source files.
 

Winnewup

Member
For #2 you can expand the info and get the old style listing. Symbol on the right.
Thanks for the quick reply. Of course I can open the complete info when the jobs are done, but it would be nice, if there would be a hint in the first overview, that there had been problems in the job (yellow exclamation mark instead of green checkmark). So you wouldn't have to open all the detailed output infos to see if there had been problems with encoding/cutting.
The green checkmarks in the overview leads you to believe everything is o.k. .
Perhaps you can find a way to make this detail a bit more perfect. :)

This is a good idea, but this isn't new to V5, V4 should have have given you similar results. For now, if you get this lot, then I recommend doing batch QuickStream fix of all your source files.
QuickStream fix means to double or triple the time. The source file (h264) is usually bigger (begin and end) and if it is stored on a TV Receiver, the network Connection is not so fast.
I can't remember that I got this information in VRD4. But our home community switched to SAT some weeks ago and the recorded streams could have more problems with timestamps than before (cable). This could be the reason, why I didn't get this massage while using the batch Manager in VRD4.

But perhaps you can find a solution to tranfer this hint into the detailed output info, so that the batch manager doesn't stop during the job. This is unpractical.

Thanks in advance
Frank
 

Dan203

Senior Developer
Staff member
Thanks for the quick reply. Of course I can open the complete info when the jobs are done, but it would be nice, if there would be a hint in the first overview, that there had been problems in the job (yellow exclamation mark instead of green checkmark). So you wouldn't have to open all the detailed output infos to see if there had been problems with encoding/cutting.
It actually should do that. Not sure why it's not working. I'll have to look at the code and see what's going on.
 

Winnewup

Member
This is a good idea, but this isn't new to V5, V4 should have have given you similar results. For now, if you get this lot, then I recommend doing batch QuickStream fix of all your source files.
Hello again,

I just made a batch job (3 vids) in VRD5 and got the note-window with problems finding the timestamps three times. In order to compare the batch manager to the older version I made exactly the same jobs in VRD4 and ... didn't get such a message. So this break with the note-window to be checked must be new in VRD5!

If I save the same vids directly without using the batch manager, I don't get the message too!

It would be nice if you find a way to solve the problem. If you have further questions please let me know.

Thanks in advance.
Frank
 
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Danr

Administrator
Staff member
Frank, can you upload or email the log file to me, as an attachment, to support AT videoredo.com? Mention topic=35127 in the subject. You can find the log file from our help menu.

Thanks.
 

Winnewup

Member
Hello,

I just did some more tests and I think I know what could cause the problems. Normally the vids I want to edit are stored on a receiver (dreambox) with a network connection to my computer. It looks like VRD5 doesn't wait long enough to get an answer (the beginning or a specific timestamp of the vid) from the receiver (or VRD5 has more problems finding a specific timestamp than VRD4).
Entry in the logfile: "2015-02-16 17:04:43 H264, Delay while seeking to: 00:14:51.14"
To verify this I copied the original files from the receiver to a local disc on my computer and repeated exactly the same batch job (see posting abouve). The batch job ran through without any note-windows or breaks!

VRD4 seems to be more relaxed ... the same batch job runs through without any errors, if I get the vids directly (as usual) from the receiver. (I don't remember ever getting this note-window while using VRD4 batch manager in the past)

I hope this helps to find the problem. I will send an excerpt of the logfile to support.

Please excuse my bad English.
Frank
 

Danr

Administrator
Staff member
It be might this setting: Go to Shift+Tools>Options, and increase:

9. Msec for seek completion before timeout: 5000

You might want to check the value being set for V4. (Note, the text will be similar but the # 9 will probably be different).
 
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Winnewup

Member
Hello,
the values in VDR4 and VRD5 are the same: 5000.
I increased the value and then it works without note-windows. :)

Don't know why VRD5 needs more time to find a timestamp, but it doesn't matter.

Many thanks!

By the way: VRD is a really good program and in the actual version even h264 ts-streams have clean cuts without any pixeling. :cool:
 

Winnewup

Member
I increased the value in one step to 10000, just to see if it works. It seems the program doesn't need the hole time. I could check it out in the next few days with other values if it is helpful. Please tell me.
 

Danr

Administrator
Staff member
Thanks for the info. No need to research it further, I only wanted to know in case other users have a similar issue. No idea why V4 re-acted better, the basic seeking logic is unchanged between V4 and V5. Probably something subtle.
 
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