adding fonts to title editor listbox

schmibble

Member
The title editor displays only a few fonts in its listbox--far less than the many I have installed. I've put up with this for a good while, but now I'm working on a project that requires me to use other fonts. How can I make VDR recognize them?

Thanks.
 

phd

Super Moderator
I've got dozens listed in in both VRD video title and DVD template editor.

Have you installed fonts in Windows that are exclusive to certain applications?
 

Danr

Administrator
Staff member
I think the limitation is that we are only selecting ANSI fonts for that dialog. What font are you trying to use. Do you know what the "charset" is for that font?

Other than the CHARSET selection there's no limitation on the number of fonts that can be used. I'm showing over 200 fonts in my dropdown.
 

SnoopyDog

New member
The title editor displays only a few fonts in its listbox--far less than the many I have installed. I've put up with this for a good while, but now I'm working on a project that requires me to use other fonts. How can I make VDR recognize them?

Thanks.
I do recommend to use a software that supports unicode. Unfortunately VRD doesn't and won't be within any foreseeable future. Apparently they rely on many third party dlls not unicoded, so you can say they pretty much painted themself into a corner and can't get out without things getting really messy.
 
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Danr

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schmibble, If you can't get to the fonts you need, then here's a work around. Create a graphic, with text, in another application such as paint, photoshop, etc. Then paste the graphic as the background in the title editor.
 

schmibble

Member
...workaround: Create a graphic, with text, in another application such as paint, photoshop, etc. Then paste the graphic as the background in the title editor.
I've done that before, but it's an unacceptably time-consuming interruption of workflow when it has to be done more than three or four times during a single project, which is the case right now.

software that supports unicode. Unfortunately VRD doesn't
Although I agree that lack of Unicode support is a problem, it's not mine (at least right now); this particular system is dedicated to low-to-mid-level media work, so aside from VDR and the latest Irfanview, most of the software is what some folks would consider out of date. The fonts are from CorelDraw 9 suite (ca. 2001), which did not feature unicode fonts AFAIK. The ANSI limitation shouldn't be an issue with most of these older fonts either, but Dan's note about that did prompt me to investigate another possibility, which turned out to answer the question: the reason my fonts aren't being displayed is because VideoReDo won't accept Type 1 fonts. With these older fonts I prefer to use Type One fonts over True Type because True-type fonts are less stable (especially when you're trying to get fancy with desktop-publishing projects). So I've got all my nice designer fonts installed as T1, and that's what the title editor doesn't like. I just deleted two of them and re-installed them as True-types, and the title editor font box now displays those fonts.

I have to say that this still sucks--it doesn't solve my problem because, as I just indicated, I don't want to use True Types, and installing the same font in both formats will bloat the system unnecessarily. But at least we now know what the problem is: the title editor will not accept Type 1 fonts. This isn't worth fixing in VDR because Type Ones are outdated tech and won't ever come back, but (obviously) there are still at least a few people using them, so Dan, I strongly recommend that a note concerning this issue be added to the FAQ or to the manual/help file--those were the first places I looked, so I know that there's no information about any kind of font limitations in either place.

You might as well put a note about the Unicode issue there too while you're at it. Even if Type-1 users are now an endangered species, the Unicode problem is only going to get bigger, and it needs to be noted somewhere. I'm glad I've just been informed about it, because otherwise it would have certainly bitten me in the keister sometime down the road.

Thanks for the replies, all.
 
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Dan203

Senior Developer
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The title editor uses GDI+ for all the graphics and font functions. GDI+ only supports TrueType fonts, so there is no way for us to add support for Type 1 even if we wanted to.

Dan
 

schmibble

Member
there is no way for us to add support for Type 1 even if we wanted to.Dan
Well, as I indicated, I wouldn't expect you to. The real issue is that the limitation isn't documented, so I had to waste a bunch of time figuring it out. Kinda makes one feel that RTFMing is pointless.
 

Dan203

Senior Developer
Staff member
We're working on our manual right now. We're a small company with limited resources and an constantly evolving product, so our documentation has become a bit neglected over the last few years.

Dan
 
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