Add Chapter marks manually?

Frunobulax

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First, I want to say what a great product VideoRedo is! I have searched for years and found quite a lot of video editing software, but so far none has met my needs 100%. VideoRedo was exactly what I wanted - something powerful, but also easy to do simple things like cut scenes and trim files without the time and lossyness of recoding. It meets 99% of my needs. I'm still learning it and so far it's superb! I was happy to pay for the full v5 - though it is pretty pricey at $100, it was worth it for me because it does everything I need all in one place without having to use a bunch of separate programs. I also view, edit, and convert a lot of old files which may have errors, so I really appreciate the "fix" functions. It's important to me to be able to output good video that doesn't skip, crash, or drop frames. This helps me preserve those files in older formats into newer formats.

I said it meets my needs 99%. There are just two tiny features I would love to see that would make it 100% perfect. Since I use the mp4 format not just for ease of use but also to catalog my files with metadata, the ability to edit metadata in mp4 files (artist, title, actors, etc) would be super useful. I can use other software to do this, but integration would be awesome.

Second, I appreciate the auto-chapter-marks feature, but it would be so fantastic if you could just add a button to manually add a chapter mark. I often want to add chapters in places other than scene cuts and I can't find a way to just manually drop one in there randomly.

Sorry if these have been suggested before. Thanks!
 

Danr

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Staff member
Thank you for the kind words, they are very much appreciated.

To manually add chapters, press the "A" key. This sets a scene mark at that location. Pressing "A" again removes it, and shift+A or Ctrl+A (can't remember off-hand) clears them all. There are equivalent menu options available by right clicking on the video.

Now, to create as chapters in MP4 files, go to Tools>Options>Chapters. One of the settings is to convert scene markers to chapters. That should do what you want.

Regarding the MP4 metadata editing. We've had a number of requests regarding this. We will discuss and see if it's something we can include in our V6 development roadmap.
 

Frunobulax

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Dan, thank you for your swift response. As for metadata editing, I doubt it would be too hard - AFAIK MP4 files use the same metadata format as MP3 files and can be edited with the same software, so there is probably existing OSS software/libraries out there you might be able to use.

Regarding Chapter makers, the "A" key does in fact add scene marks as you say, but I can't find a "converts scene markers to chapters" option in the chapter dialog of the settings. I am using version 5.3.83.763. Here is a screenshot:

Chapter dialog.png

Thanks.
 

Frunobulax

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I can't seem to delete my previous post. In any case, I tried it and Videoredo seems to automatically add chapter markers in the MP4 files wherever a scene marker is. Thanks.
 

jmc

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I can't seem to delete my previous post. In any case, I tried it and Videoredo seems to automatically add chapter markers in the MP4 files wherever a scene marker is. Thanks.
I can't remember the details but some file types NEED a "Chapter File" with the video file for the
Chapters to show up.

Tools>Options>Chapter marks> "Automatically create a Chapter File" checkbox.
 

Danr

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Staff member
MP4, MKV, and DVDs files have chapter marks in their metadata and don't need an external chapter file. The chapter file is used both by TVSuite when opening other file types (such as Transport streams, etc) and some third party applications that know how to use them.

Personally, while I use chapters with MP4 files, I rarely create a chapters file since the same information is saved as scene markers in a .VPrj project file.
 

jmc

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MP4, MKV, and DVDs files have chapter marks in their metadata and don't need an external chapter file. The chapter file is used both by TVSuite when opening other file types (such as Transport streams, etc) and some third party applications that know how to use them.

What I run into is when I pull the .mpg file out of the dvd folder (on HHD) with QSF
it will show the chapters.

But if I don't edit at that time and come back later and load the .mpg file
there will not be any chapter marks without having a "chapter file".

Hmm, I'm going to have to create an x264.mp4 file from a chapter marked dvd folder
and see if the x264.mp4 file will show chapter marks.

Because "MP4, MKV, and DVDs files have chapter marks in their metadata" is not ringing a bell
at all for my x264.MP4 file work.
But then I usually go "dvd>mpg>create x264.MP4 file. (no chapter files and no chapter marks in the X264.MP4 files).

Thanks for the details,
jmc
 

Danr

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Doesn't matter which of the 3 H.264 encoders (Mainconcept, X.264, or quicksync) you use. The chapter markers for mp4 files are written in the muxer.
 

jmc

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Doesn't matter which of the 3 H.264 encoders (Mainconcept, X.264, or quicksync) you use. The chapter markers for mp4 files are written in the muxer.
I would love to have the "dvd folder" chapter marks built into my .MP4 files.

But I just tried going from a dvd folder into VRD (with chapter marks)
and output straight to a .MP4 file. ...no chapter marks in the .MP4 file.

What am I not doing right to get the dvd folder chapter marks into my .MP4 files?

Thanks,
jmc
 
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Danr

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Staff member
In Tools>Options>Chapter, check "At scene marks". That should let the chapters in a DVD become scene marks on the time line. Then when you save to MP4 the scene marks will be become chapters in the mp4 file.

There are 2 things to understand:

1. When you load a file that has chapters (mp4, mkv, DVD), those chapter turn into scene markers on the time line which are red vertical bars.

2. When you save a file that support chapters (or create a chpaters.txt) scene markers are turned into chapter markers in the saved file. Other things can be come chapters as well such as cut points and equally spaced intervals. See Tools>Options>Chapters for which items become chapters.
 

jmc

Active member
In Tools>Options>Chapter, check "At scene marks". That should let the chapters in a DVD become scene marks on the time line. Then when you save to MP4 the scene marks will be become chapters in the mp4 file.

There are 2 things to understand:

1. When you load a file that has chapters (mp4, mkv, DVD), those chapter turn into scene markers on the time line which are red vertical bars.

2. When you save a file that support chapters (or create a chpaters.txt) scene markers are turned into chapter markers in the saved file. Other things can be come chapters as well such as cut points and equally spaced intervals. See Tools>Options>Chapters for which items become chapters.
Good, Thanks!

jmc
 
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