746f - H.264/AC3 TiVo recordings QSF using default H.264 ts profile - Percolate error

Fentropic

Member
QSF an H.264/AC3 TiVo to an H.264/AC3 ts using the deafult output profile results in this error with many recordings.
Copying and editing the default output profile to change to a manual ts mux rate of 25MB or 50MB eliminates the problem.

Code:
2016-11-09 21:38:29  <><><> TS Mux Error: BufferOverflow in Percolate  <><><>
  Stream: Video Stream, lastFree: 0, Packet Count: 524300, PCR: 208406.39 (00:03:28.39), MUX Rate: 19.20000, Underflow Count: 0
   Buffer: Transport, Bytes: 513, Size: 512, ExitRate: 750000, Count: 1, LastIn: 188
       0,  209976.24, Stored: 513, Out:496
   Buffer: Mux Buf, Bytes: 0, Size: 0, ExitRate: 625000, Count: 0, LastIn: 0
   Buffer: Elem Buf, Bytes: 679336, Size: 793856, ExitRate: 0, Count: 95, LastIn: 48
       0,  208408.01, Stored: 7391, Out:7391
       1,  208424.70, Stored: 18605, Out:18605
       2,  208441.38, Stored: 10964, Out:10964
       3,  208458.07, Stored: 6016, Out:6016
       4,  208474.74, Stored: 6173, Out:6173
       5,  208491.43, Stored: 15882, Out:15882
       6,  208508.11, Stored: 9913, Out:9913
       7,  208524.80, Stored: 5316, Out:5316
       8,  208541.48, Stored: 4339, Out:4339
       9,  208558.17, Stored: 16062, Out:16062
      10,  208574.84, Stored: 10181, Out:10181
      11,  208591.53, Stored: 4571, Out:4571
      12,  208608.21, Stored: 5298, Out:5298
      13,  208624.90, Stored: 15333, Out:15333
      14,  208641.58, Stored: 10362, Out:10362
      15,  208658.27, Stored: 5148, Out:5148
      16,  208674.94, Stored: 5821, Out:5821
      17,  208691.63, Stored: 11858, Out:11858
      18,  208708.31, Stored: 7465, Out:7465
      19,  208725.00, Stored: 3897, Out:3897
      20,  208741.68, Stored: 3830, Out:3830
      21,  208758.37, Stored: 10590, Out:10590
      22,  208775.04, Stored: 5969, Out:5969
      23,  208791.73, Stored: 3694, Out:3694
      24,  208808.41, Stored: 3381, Out:3381
      25,  208825.10, Stored: 9766, Out:9766
      26,  208841.78, Stored: 5283, Out:5283
      27,  208858.47, Stored: 3078, Out:3078
      28,  208875.14, Stored: 3164, Out:3164
      29,  208891.83, Stored: 12048, Out:12048
      30,  208908.51, Stored: 6239, Out:6239
      31,  208925.20, Stored: 3431, Out:3431
      32,  208941.88, Stored: 3071, Out:3071
      33,  208958.57, Stored: 13358, Out:13358
      34,  208975.24, Stored: 5482, Out:5482
      35,  208991.93, Stored: 2986, Out:2986
      36,  209008.61, Stored: 2510, Out:2510
      37,  209025.30, Stored: 12141, Out:12141
      38,  209041.98, Stored: 5098, Out:5098
      39,  209058.67, Stored: 2392, Out:2392
      40,  209075.34, Stored: 2501, Out:2501
      41,  209092.03, Stored: 13224, Out:13224
      42,  209108.71, Stored: 5083, Out:5083
      43,  209125.40, Stored: 2447, Out:2447
      44,  209142.08, Stored: 2493, Out:2493
      45,  209158.77, Stored: 16451, Out:16451
      46,  209175.44, Stored: 6222, Out:6222
      47,  209192.13, Stored: 3181, Out:3181
      48,  209208.81, Stored: 2868, Out:2868
      49,  209225.50, Stored: 15605, Out:15605
      50,  209242.18, Stored: 5163, Out:5163
      51,  209258.87, Stored: 2646, Out:2646
      52,  209275.54, Stored: 2229, Out:2229
      53,  209292.23, Stored: 15722, Out:15722
      54,  209308.91, Stored: 5977, Out:5977
      55,  209325.60, Stored: 2466, Out:2466
      56,  209342.28, Stored: 3084, Out:3084
      57,  209358.97, Stored: 17027, Out:17027
      58,  209375.64, Stored: 8967, Out:8967
      59,  209392.33, Stored: 4425, Out:4425
      60,  209409.01, Stored: 4884, Out:4884
      61,  209425.70, Stored: 16167, Out:16167
      62,  209442.38, Stored: 9287, Out:9287
      63,  209459.07, Stored: 4680, Out:4680
      64,  209475.74, Stored: 4920, Out:4920
      65,  209492.43, Stored: 15129, Out:15129
      66,  209509.11, Stored: 8461, Out:8461
      67,  209525.80, Stored: 4511, Out:4511
      68,  209542.48, Stored: 4796, Out:4796
      69,  209559.17, Stored: 13068, Out:13068
      70,  209575.84, Stored: 8086, Out:8086
      71,  209592.53, Stored: 4490, Out:4490
      72,  209609.21, Stored: 4627, Out:4627
      73,  209625.90, Stored: 10896, Out:10896
      74,  209642.58, Stored: 7010, Out:7010
      75,  209659.27, Stored: 4724, Out:4724
      76,  209675.94, Stored: 4780, Out:4780
      77,  209692.63, Stored: 9666, Out:9666
      78,  209709.31, Stored: 6775, Out:6775
      79,  209726.00, Stored: 4908, Out:4908
      80,  209742.68, Stored: 5390, Out:5390
      81,  209759.37, Stored: 8811, Out:8811
      82,  209776.04, Stored: 6034, Out:6034
      83,  209792.73, Stored: 4808, Out:4808
      84,  209809.41, Stored: 4331, Out:4331
      85,  209826.10, Stored: 9883, Out:9883
      86,  209842.78, Stored: 5810, Out:5810
      87,  209859.47, Stored: 4307, Out:4307
      88,  209876.14, Stored: 3988, Out:3988
      89,  209892.83, Stored: 11604, Out:11604
      90,  209909.51, Stored: 6629, Out:6629
      91,  209926.20, Stored: 4665, Out:4665
      92,  209942.88, Stored: 4507, Out:4507
      93,  209959.57, Stored: 10769, Out:10769
      94,  209976.24, Stored: 48, Out:48

2016-11-09 21:38:29 Output graph aborted at module: Output muxer, error: TS Muxer Error, details in the log file.
2016-11-09 21:38:29 H264 smart editor2: Process thread complete.  Video frames, In: 0,  Out: 0
2016-11-09 21:38:29 Graph, monitoring thread received terminate signal.
2016-11-09 21:38:29 Audio divider:output: Process thread complete.
2016-11-09 21:38:29 H264 encoder: Process thread complete.  Video frames, In: 0,  Out: 0
2016-11-09 21:38:29 Audio decoder:0 processing thread complete. In: 6636, Out: 6636
2016-11-09 21:38:29 Output muxer processing thread complete. Video in: 12579, Out: 12578, Buffer: 0
2016-11-09 21:38:29 H264 decoder: Process thread complete.  Video frames, In: 0,  Out: 0
2016-11-09 21:38:29 Graph monitoring thread finished.
2016-11-09 21:38:29 Output muxer processing thread complete. Audio stream 0 In: 6555, Out: 6555, Buffer: 0
2016-11-09 21:38:29 Muxer add / delete audio: stream: 0, add: 0  delete 0, sync:     -18.97
2016-11-09 21:38:31  <><><> TS Mux Error: BufferOverflow in Percolate  <><><>
  Stream: Video Stream, lastFree: 0, Packet Count: 524300, PCR: 208406.47 (00:03:28.39), MUX Rate: 19.20000, Underflow Count: 0
   Buffer: Transport, Bytes: 513, Size: 512, ExitRate: 750000, Count: 1, LastIn: 188
       0,  209976.24, Stored: 513, Out:496
   Buffer: Mux Buf, Bytes: 0, Size: 0, ExitRate: 625000, Count: 0, LastIn: 0
   Buffer: Elem Buf, Bytes: 679336, Size: 793856, ExitRate: 0, Count: 95, LastIn: 48
       0,  208408.01, Stored: 7391, Out:7391
       1,  208424.70, Stored: 18605, Out:18605
       2,  208441.38, Stored: 10964, Out:10964
       3,  208458.07, Stored: 6016, Out:6016
       4,  208474.74, Stored: 6173, Out:6173
       5,  208491.43, Stored: 15882, Out:15882
       6,  208508.11, Stored: 9913, Out:9913
       7,  208524.80, Stored: 5316, Out:5316
       8,  208541.48, Stored: 4339, Out:4339
       9,  208558.17, Stored: 16062, Out:16062
      10,  208574.84, Stored: 10181, Out:10181
      11,  208591.53, Stored: 4571, Out:4571
      12,  208608.21, Stored: 5298, Out:5298
      13,  208624.90, Stored: 15333, Out:15333
      14,  208641.58, Stored: 10362, Out:10362
      15,  208658.27, Stored: 5148, Out:5148
      16,  208674.94, Stored: 5821, Out:5821
      17,  208691.63, Stored: 11858, Out:11858
      18,  208708.31, Stored: 7465, Out:7465
      19,  208725.00, Stored: 3897, Out:3897
      20,  208741.68, Stored: 3830, Out:3830
      21,  208758.37, Stored: 10590, Out:10590
      22,  208775.04, Stored: 5969, Out:5969
      23,  208791.73, Stored: 3694, Out:3694
      24,  208808.41, Stored: 3381, Out:3381
      25,  208825.10, Stored: 9766, Out:9766
      26,  208841.78, Stored: 5283, Out:5283
      27,  208858.47, Stored: 3078, Out:3078
      28,  208875.14, Stored: 3164, Out:3164
      29,  208891.83, Stored: 12048, Out:12048
      30,  208908.51, Stored: 6239, Out:6239
      31,  208925.20, Stored: 3431, Out:3431
      32,  208941.88, Stored: 3071, Out:3071
      33,  208958.57, Stored: 13358, Out:13358
      34,  208975.24, Stored: 5482, Out:5482
      35,  208991.93, Stored: 2986, Out:2986
      36,  209008.61, Stored: 2510, Out:2510
      37,  209025.30, Stored: 12141, Out:12141
      38,  209041.98, Stored: 5098, Out:5098
      39,  209058.67, Stored: 2392, Out:2392
      40,  209075.34, Stored: 2501, Out:2501
      41,  209092.03, Stored: 13224, Out:13224
      42,  209108.71, Stored: 5083, Out:5083
      43,  209125.40, Stored: 2447, Out:2447
      44,  209142.08, Stored: 2493, Out:2493
      45,  209158.77, Stored: 16451, Out:16451
      46,  209175.44, Stored: 6222, Out:6222
      47,  209192.13, Stored: 3181, Out:3181
      48,  209208.81, Stored: 2868, Out:2868
      49,  209225.50, Stored: 15605, Out:15605
      50,  209242.18, Stored: 5163, Out:5163
      51,  209258.87, Stored: 2646, Out:2646
      52,  209275.54, Stored: 2229, Out:2229
      53,  209292.23, Stored: 15722, Out:15722
      54,  209308.91, Stored: 5977, Out:5977
      55,  209325.60, Stored: 2466, Out:2466
      56,  209342.28, Stored: 3084, Out:3084
      57,  209358.97, Stored: 17027, Out:17027
      58,  209375.64, Stored: 8967, Out:8967
      59,  209392.33, Stored: 4425, Out:4425
      60,  209409.01, Stored: 4884, Out:4884
      61,  209425.70, Stored: 16167, Out:16167
      62,  209442.38, Stored: 9287, Out:9287
      63,  209459.07, Stored: 4680, Out:4680
      64,  209475.74, Stored: 4920, Out:4920
      65,  209492.43, Stored: 15129, Out:15129
      66,  209509.11, Stored: 8461, Out:8461
      67,  209525.80, Stored: 4511, Out:4511
      68,  209542.48, Stored: 4796, Out:4796
      69,  209559.17, Stored: 13068, Out:13068
      70,  209575.84, Stored: 8086, Out:8086
      71,  209592.53, Stored: 4490, Out:4490
      72,  209609.21, Stored: 4627, Out:4627
      73,  209625.90, Stored: 10896, Out:10896
      74,  209642.58, Stored: 7010, Out:7010
      75,  209659.27, Stored: 4724, Out:4724
      76,  209675.94, Stored: 4780, Out:4780
      77,  209692.63, Stored: 9666, Out:9666
      78,  209709.31, Stored: 6775, Out:6775
      79,  209726.00, Stored: 4908, Out:4908
      80,  209742.68, Stored: 5390, Out:5390
      81,  209759.37, Stored: 8811, Out:8811
      82,  209776.04, Stored: 6034, Out:6034
      83,  209792.73, Stored: 4808, Out:4808
      84,  209809.41, Stored: 4331, Out:4331
      85,  209826.10, Stored: 9883, Out:9883
      86,  209842.78, Stored: 5810, Out:5810
      87,  209859.47, Stored: 4307, Out:4307
      88,  209876.14, Stored: 3988, Out:3988
      89,  209892.83, Stored: 11604, Out:11604
      90,  209909.51, Stored: 6629, Out:6629
      91,  209926.20, Stored: 4665, Out:4665
      92,  209942.88, Stored: 4507, Out:4507
      93,  209959.57, Stored: 10769, Out:10769
      94,  209976.24, Stored: 48, Out:48
 

Danr

Administrator
Staff member
This shouldn't happen with Tivo files. Can't diagnose the issue without getting all or part of the file. Can you upload something to us? If the file is larger than 1GB and you want to upload the whole thing, email me at support and I'll send you FTP instructions.
 

Fentropic

Member
This shouldn't happen with Tivo files. Can't diagnose the issue without getting all or part of the file. Can you upload something to us? If the file is larger than 1GB and you want to upload the whole thing, email me at support and I'll send you FTP instructions.
Don't have that file any longer, but happens frequent enough that I should have a few more this weekend and will repost.
 

Fentropic

Member
Got another one.
Percolate error using default H.264/AC3.TiVo to H.264/AC3.ts QSF but no percolate error using same H.264/AC3.TiVo to modified 25MB TS mux H.264/AC3.ts QSF.
Have files if you want and medium verbosity log files of QSF's.
Life is getting in the way, may encounter sleep soon!
 

Fentropic

Member
This shouldn't happen with Tivo files. Can't diagnose the issue without getting all or part of the file. Can you upload something to us? If the file is larger than 1GB and you want to upload the whole thing, email me at support and I'll send you FTP instructions.
Sent email requesting FTP transfer of 1.57GB file and logs
 

Fentropic

Member
Thought I'd start with a clean slate in case all of my numerous upgrades over the years from ancient to current TVS versions might be causing the problem.

I uninstalled my TVS, deleted all occurences of "DRD Systems" and "TVSuite" from the registry, deleted the Program Files and User files directories and rebooted.
I then re-installed the latest Beta and ran the QSF again, getting the same perocalate error using a fresh install.
I'm slowly updating the newly installed copy to include all my tweaks by manually changing them from the GUI instead of restoring anything old via registry or xml files that may be corrupt.

After uploading that file to your ftp server and reinstalling per above, I've ran a few more recordins through the same QSF H.264 TiVo to H.264 ts and still get percolate errors.
I've found that saving them to H.264 non-transport stream (program stream?) format completes w/o errors.
Almost all of my H.264 TiVo recordings lately are getting percolate errors when saving them as H.264 transport streams, some even when using 20, 25 or 50MB ts mux rates.
I'm no expert but transport stream input/output appears to be a problem.

Since I don't know the root cause I'm not sure if it's my two tivos (recordings from both Premiere and Roamio have same problem), TiVo software on the units, Comcast or Discovery/NatGeo/Science/Vice, etc.

Lot's more work and a lot less fun than it used to be!
 

Dan203

Senior Developer
Staff member
Can you post the output complete info for a file that succeeds with the higher muxrate? I just want to see what the actual audio and video bitrates are.
 

Fentropic

Member
Can you post the output complete info for a file that succeeds with the higher muxrate? I just want to see what the actual audio and video bitrates are.
The Output complete dialog doesn't show Audio bitrate, neither does the log file.
All of these are;
Code:
        Codec : AC3
       Format : AC3 stream
     Channels : 5.1
     Bit rate : 384 Kbps
Sampling rate : 48000
  Sample size : 16 bits
Output Complete Dialog;
Code:
[NatGeo] Mars - Novo Mundo
 Video length: 01:00:54 
 Video size: 1636MB 
 Output scenes: 1 
 Video output frames: 219127 
 Audio output frames: 114208 
 Processing time (secs): 57 
 Processed frames/sec: 3844.33 
 Actual Video Bitrate: 3.03 Mbps 

[VICE] Cyberwar - The Ashley Madison Hack
 Video length: 00:30:54 
 Video size: 830MB 
 Output scenes: 1 
 Video output frames: 111221 
 Audio output frames: 57924 
 Processing time (secs): 29 
 Processed frames/sec: 3835.21 
 Actual Video Bitrate: 3.03 Mbps 

[SCIENCE]What On Earth - Lost Treasure of the Grand Canyon
 Video length: 01:03:59 
 Video size: 1717MB 
 Output scenes: 1 
 Video output frames: 230220 
 Audio output frames: 119990 
 Processing time (secs): 58 
 Processed frames/sec: 3969.31 
 Actual Video Bitrate: 3.03 Mbps 

[DISCOVERY] Alaska: The Last Frontier - One Man Short
 Video length: 01:01:56 
 Video size: 1658MB 
 Output scenes: 1 
 Video output frames: 222869 
 Audio output frames: 116161 
 Processing time (secs): 55 
 Processed frames/sec: 4052.16 
 Actual Video Bitrate: 3.02 Mbps
 

Dan203

Senior Developer
Staff member
Hmmm... DanR is more of the TS expert, but the mux rate shouldn't really make a difference here so it seems odd that changing it has any effect. But again I'm not really a TS expert so I'm going to have to defer to DanR on this. I'll remind him about the thread though so he can chime in.
 

Danr

Administrator
Staff member
Already emailed Fentropic that this has been resolved for the next beta.
 
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